ARIN Database and Template Transition

Thu Feb 21 13:44:36 EST 2002

Will the new templates and accompanying instructions be available in
Spanish?  Would it be possible to place a link to templates on the library
page?

Regards,
Linda Werner

Richard Jimmerson wrote:

> Hello Dawn,
>
> > Is this going to be an agenda item at the next ARIN meeting? If not,
> > can it be put on the agenda?  I would really like to see some more
> > discussion from the membership before this is implemented.
>
> ARIN has been working with its members and the general ARIN user
> community for the past year to finalize plans for a new database
> schema and templates.  ARIN's last two public policy meetings
> (April and October 2001) featured discussions about the new
> database schema and templates.  On both occasions, the location
> of the templates on the ARIN FTP site was announced and comments
> were solicited.
>
> The templates that are to be released in June are a result of
> the feedback received following these two meetings.
>
> The next ARIN meeting will also feature the new templates, but in
> their final form, as part of a tutorial.
>
> > Has anyone else said anything about this or is it just me?
>
> Other than your own, ARIN has only received messages indicating
> an interest to participate in upcoming beta-testing of the new
> database and templates in response to the February 12 announcement
> to this list.
>
> The instructions of two of the new templates have been modified
> based on your feedback.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Richard Jimmerson
> Director of Operations
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On
> > Behalf Of Dawn Martin
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:54 AM
> > To: richardj at arin.net
> > Cc: ppml at arin.net; dbwg at arin.net
> > Subject: RE: ARIN Database and Template Transition
> >
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > Is this going to be an agenda item at the next ARIN meeting? If not,
> > can it be
> > put on the agenda?  I would really like to see some more discussion
> > from the membership
> > before this is implemented. I believe that this might be more of an
> > education
> > issue that needs to be addressed rather than changing the process for
> > updating WHOIS.
> > Has anyone else said anything about this or is it just me?
> >
> > Dawn Martin
> > dawn.martin at wcom.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dbwg-request at arin.net [mailto:dbwg-request at arin.net]On Behalf Of
> > Richard Jimmerson
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:19 PM
> > To: Dawn.Martin at wcom.com
> > Cc: ppml at arin.net; dbwg at arin.net
> > Subject: RE: ARIN Database and Template Transition
> >
> >
> > Hello Dawn,
> >
> > Thank you for taking a close look at the templates and asking
> > for clarification.  Please see the responses to your questions
> > in-line, below.
> >
> > >1) Can the wording change for the lines 2 - 19 on the
> > >Reassign-detailed to be downstream org....?
> >
> > In an effort to reduce the length of the labels, the word "Downstream"
> > was not included in each line of the template (lines 2 - 19).  We can
> > expand the comment section of the template to more clearly specify
> > that lines 2 - 19 require information about the downstream
> > organization.
> >
> > >2) So now we have 4 templates to deal with instead of 1, how does
> > this
> > >make my life easier?
> >
> > I believe you are referring to the following four templates:
> >
> >  # reallocate -- creates a registration record for a downstream ISP
> >    customer.
> >
> >  # reassign-detailed -- creates a registration record for a downstream
> >    end-user customer who will maintain their own in-addr.arpa and POC
> >    associations.
> >
> >  # reassign-simple -- creates a registration record for a downstream
> >    end-user customer who will not maintain their own in-addr.arpa and
> >    contact information.
> >
> >  # netmod -- may be used by a downstream customer who has been given
> >    the authority by their upstream to maintain their own in-addr.arpa
> >    and/or contact information.
> >
> > Separate templates were created for reallocations and reassignments to
> > prevent confusion between the two actions that currently exists with
> > the
> >
> > single SWIP template.
> >
> > reassign-detailed and reassign-simple allow the upstream to provide
> > only
> >
> > the data that is required, as some reassignments do not require POC
> > and/or in-addr.arpa information different from that of the upstream.
> >
> > The new netmod template functions much like that of the current netmod
> > template, but will add the ability of a downstream customer to modify
> > their contact and in-addr.arpa information, if given prior
> > authorization
> >
> > by their upstream.
> >
> > Some upstream providers will choose to use one or two of the template
> > choices on a regular basis, but will have an option to use any or all
> > of the templates if needed.
> >
> > >3) Will all assignments now only be on bit boundaries?
> >
> > Reassignments to the downstream that are not on the bit boundary will
> > be accepted.  Either CIDR notation or range will be accepted.
> >
> > >4) Except for customers who want their own contact POC information
> > >associated with their WHOIS registration is there any reason to use
> > the
> > >detailed template?
> >
> > The reassign-detailed template would be used if there was a need for
> > the
> >
> > downstream to maintain their own contact or in-addr.arpa information.
> > If
> > the downstream does not need to maintain any of this information, the
> > reassign-simple template may be used.
> >
> > >5) The templates for detailed assignment and
> > ARIN-REALLOCATE-3.0-200201
> >
> > >are the exact same templates except for the template heading. Can't
> > there
> > >just be one template with a question on is this an assignment or an
> > >allocation to a "ISP type" customer? This would get rid of one
> > template.
> >
> > In gathering requirements for the new database and templates it was
> > made
> >
> > clear to ARIN that there was a need to eliminate the confusion between
> > making reassignments and reallocations by separating the templates.
> >
> > >6) The netmod template is now part of the SWIP process for any
> > customer
> >
> > >that has an org ID and we need to modify or remove the registration.
> > >And the other "LONG" forms are only for New templates for customers
> > that
> > >need POC information associated with them. The short form is only for
> > >customers that do not have POC information associated with them.
> > What
> > >POC information will be seen on these "shorter" form?
> >
> > In the case of simple reassignments, the POCs will be whatever is
> > associated with the upstream's network, either the net-tech POC or the
> > org-tech POC.
> >
> > Richard Jimmerson
> > Director of Operations
> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On
> > > Behalf Of ginny listman
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:09 PM
> > > To: ppml at arin.net; dbwg at arin.net
> > > Subject: RE: ARIN Database and Template Transition
> > >
> > >
> > > >From <Dawn.Martin at wcom.com>
> > >
> > > I need some clarification on a couple of things:
> > >
> > > 1) Can the wording change for the lines 2 - 19 on the
> > > Reassign-detailed to be downstream
> > >    org....?
> > >
> > > 2) So now we have 4 templates to deal with instead of 1, how does
> > this
> > > make my
> > >    life easier?
> > >
> > > 3) Will all assignments now only be on bit boundaries?
> > >
> > > 4) Except for customers who want their own contact POC information
> > > associated
> > >    with their WHOIS registration is there any reason to use the
> > > detailed template?
> > >
> > > 5) The templates for detailed assignment and
> > > ARIN-REALLOCATE-3.0-200201 are the
> > >    exact same templates except for the template heading. Can't there
> > > just be one
> > >    template with a question on is this an assignment or an
> > allocation
> > > to a "ISP type"
> > >    customer? This would get rid of one template.
> > >
> > > 6) The netmod template is now part of the SWIP process for any
> > > customer that has an
> > >    org ID and we need to modify or remove the registration.  And the
> > > other "LONG" forms
> > >    are only for New templates for customers that need POC
> > information
> > > associated with
> > >    them. The short form is only for customers that do not have POC
> > > information associated
> > >    with them.  What POC information will be seen on these "shorter"
> > > form?
> > >
> > > -Dawn Martin
> > >
> > >
> > #####################################################################
> > > 1. Registration Action:
> > >         ## Specify N for New, M for Modify or R for Return/Remove.
> > >         ## **REQUIRED**
> > > 2. Network Name:
> > >         ## List a network name to identify the reassigned network,
> > >         ## using no more than 50 characters. **REQUIRED**
> > > 3. IP Address and Prefix or Range:
> > >         ## Identify the network being assigned using either IP
> > address
> > >         ## and CIDR prefix, e.g. 10.1.0.0/19, or IP address range,
> > >         ## e.g. 10.1.0.0 - 10.1.31.255. **REQUIRED**
> > > 4. Customer Name:
> > > 5a. Customer Address:
> > > 5b. Customer Address:
> > >         ## Use as many Customer Address lines as needed to specify
> > >         ## street address, using no more than 200 total characters.
> > > 6. Customer City:
> > > 7. Customer State/Province:
> > > 8. Customer Postal Code:
> > > 9. Customer Country Code:
> > > 10. Public Comments:
> > >         ## Comments listed here will appear in ARIN's WHOIS
> > database.
> > >
> > > END OF TEMPLATE
> > >
> > >
> > > Dawn Martin
> > > WorldCom IP Planning Analyst
> > > dawn.martin at wcom.com
> > > (703)886-4746
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-arin-announce at arin.net
> > > [mailto:owner-arin-announce at arin.net]On Behalf Of Richard Jimmerson
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:08 PM
> > > To: arin-announce at arin.net; ppml at arin.net; dbwg at arin.net
> > > Subject: ARIN Database and Template Transition
> > >
> > >
> > > ARIN will transition to a new database and templates in
> > > June of 2002.
> > >
> > > Over the past year, ARIN has developed requirements for the
> > > new database with input from members of the ARIN user community
> > > at ARIN meetings and on the DB Working Group mailing list,
> > > dbwg at arin.net.
> > >
> > > A training program describing the new database and templates is
> > > currently under development.  This training program will be offered
> > > in person at the upcoming ARIN meeting in April, and on-line for
> > > those who are unable to attend the meeting.  Training will focus
> > > primarily on the new objects of the ARIN database and the newly
> > > designed templates.  The newly designed templates are available
> > > now at:
> > >
> >   ftp://ftp.arin.net/pub/new-templates/
> >
> > The templates incorporate the comments submitted via the DB Working
> > Group with the efforts of Registration Services and Engineering
> > Departments.  ARIN is providing these templates well in advance of
> > the conversion, and is encouraging those ISPs that have auto-generated
> > SWIPs to revise those scripts, and submit templates as beta tests.
> >
> > ARIN will solicit beta testers from the community for the new database
> > and templates.  Participation will be open to all interested parties.
> > More information about beta testing will soon become available.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Richard Jimmerson
> > Director of Operations
> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >
> >