SWIP netblocks
ginny listman
ginny at arin.net
Wed Jan 3 12:57:57 EST 2001
How about the suggestion of limiting a SWIP to no more than 4 cidr blocks?
This should eliminate possible errors, but still leave you with enough
flexibility to not have to assign a single cidr block.
Ginny
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Alex Kamantauskas wrote:
>
> This may sound a little extreme, but if you don't understand CIDR
> boundaries, than you should not be in the business of assigning address
> space. However, as you point out, there may be instances where you
> cannot swip along the boundary.
>
> Is the last line in your message suggesting that ARIN will examine each
> non-CIDR boundary SWIP that comes in, or will it reject them all unless
> the SWIPer can justify why they need to swip along non-CIDR boundaries?
>
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, ginny listman wrote:
>
> > You are correct in your belief that not everyone understands CIDR. If it
> > requires ARIN to do some education, then that is what we would like to do.
> > Yes, there may be more SWIP rejections, but that shouldn't prevent us
> > from doing what should be done. As far as old blocks, we would not change
> > what is currently in the database without permission from the POC. I
> > would be wrong of us to assume that the lack of CIDR bit boundary is due
> > to a lack of knowledge. It may be necessary for ARIN to address each
> > SWIPed netblock that is in question.
> >
> > Ginny
> >
> > On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Tanya Hinman wrote:
> >
> > > It sounds like a good idea to enforce SWIP on the bit boundary, but I
> > > believe many times SWIPs that are not on the bit boundary are completed by
> > > individuals that do not completely understand CIDR. This may cause more SWIP
> > > rejections for ARIN. Also, how will this affect the old blocks that are
> > > SWIPped incorrectly? Will ARIN require that they all be reswipped or will
> > > the old blocks be left as is?
> > >
> > > Tanya
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dbwg-request at arin.net [mailto:dbwg-request at arin.net]On Behalf Of
> > > ginny listman
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:10 AM
> > > To: dbwg at arin.net
> > > Subject: SWIP netblocks
> > >
> > >
> > > In reviewing what is currently stored in the database, there are a number
> > > of SWIPed netblocks that are not on the bit boundary. For example,
> > > instead of SWIPing 0 to 255, an entire /24, 1 to 254 was SWIPed. In the
> > > future, we will be operating in a cidr world, including displaying cidr
> > > blocks in whois. For a block that is 1 to 254, the display will include 2
> > > /32, 2 /31, 2 /30, 2 /29, 2 /28, 2 /27, and 2 /26. It would be a whole
> > > lot cleaner to display 1 /24.
> > >
> > > How do people feel about enforcing allocations/assignments based on a
> > > single cidr block? I could see an occasion where someone may want to
> > > assign 2-4 cidr blocks at a single time, but can we enforce, or strongly
> > > encouraging, a policy like this? SWIP on the bit boundary.
> > >
> > > Ginny
> > >
> >
>
> --
> Alex Kamantauskas
> alexk at tugger.net
>
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