DNSSEC Training, etc.

[Bill Darte]

Hello CLEW Mail list Members....

Below you will find some email interaction posted to another list which is
pertinent to CLEW.
I have captured the primary messages as they were posted to save you a few
extra emails.

If you wish to comment on this thread or offer other training/education
suggestions, please do.

Bill Darte
AC and Chair of CLEW




Beginning of Email Interaction.....

John Brown wrote....

The other RIR's have been working towards building course
on DNSSEC and providing training about that.

I'd like to propose that ARIN/CLEW being work in that 
direction as well.

I'm raising this on the AC list first and as appropriate 
willing to move this to a more open question/list.. Bill D???

Willing to help put together course work, and interact with
APNIC and RIPE on this goal.

comments, ideas ???

Ray Plzak wrote...

ARIN staff is already working on this and other training.  Any Input is
welcome.

Bill Darte wrote...

It is my opinion that the role of CLEW, if it were not dysfunctional, would
be to identify training/educational needs and establish a dialog which would
suggest priority, scope and scale of fulfillment, and then through shared
experience identify where fulfillment might be sought....either commercial,
via industry groups or through a development process involving one or the
other groups.

Obviously, ARIN has through some other channel identified and prioritized
the need and is acting to fulfill the need.... CLEW was not the channel.

CLEW has faced the challenge from the outset of getting the mindshare and
commitment of the ARIN community to use the CLEW list to channel their
information needs..... it hasn't happened in my opinion because there are no
real pressing needs that don't get talked about in a variety of other
forums, e.g. IETF, NANOG, RIPE and APNIC, etc.

I have been the ineffective chair of the CLEW group for a long time now.
Ineffective, because I am not at all the other meetings, I am not an
operator or an engineer in the trenches.  I'm an educator.  If CLEW were to
function properly, then I suggest that a change in leadership is needed, but
I am not convinced that that would ensure CLEW as an effective vehicle
either.  It has a cultural bias against it.

Ray Plzak wrote...

To date ARIN's training efforts have been mainly tutorials at ARIN
meetings and by invitation, tutorials at NANOG meetings.  ARIN recently
took training on the road to facilitate the data base conversion
project.  An on the road curriculum would be a good thing to have from
the members.  I don't think surveys are the answer.  I think that a list
of proposed topics should be developed and presented to the CLEW list
for  discussion.  If you would like ARIN staff can develop such a list.

John Brown wrote...

I believe that the DNSSEC training that other RIR's
are starting could be a good "starting point" for getting
some activity going with CLEW and with ARIN's continued
outreach.

I'd be happy to work towards those goals, and think I can
bring in some outside talent on this project (from the 
membership) as well.

Would it be reasonable to ask the other RIR's for copies
of their current materials as a starting point, something
we can then tweek for our region?

End of Email Interaction.....