Notice: Subject control? and thanks!

Bill Darte billd at cait.wustl.edu
Wed May 10 14:42:33 EDT 2000


Below, I responded to a message about a general ARIN, addressing and
conservation document for non-techies.... yet the subject was RE:Long over
due.....just like all the rest....

I propose that we should use the RE: to the same subject when a subject
specifies the actual content of the message, and make up a new subject when
we initiate a new item or when we take an existing topic on a tangent
discussion....

It's hard to remember to do this, but as a point of order, it will make
keeping up with messages we are interested easier and less cumbersome
overall.....

Bill Darte....and oh...thanks for the response...eureka! maybe there is like
in CLEW.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Darte [mailto:billd at cait.wustl.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 1:31 PM
> To: Clew Workgroup (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Long over due
> 
> 
> Yeah, I think the issues you raise ("who we are and what we 
>  do" document)probably fit squarely in the center of how the Internet
> technology is managed...ICANN on down...and then what are 
> Registries and why
> we need them...and how ISPs are agents of the registries and 
> how address
> consumers have a role in conservation through good
> planning/assignments..e.g. VLSM etc.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gene Jakominich [mailto:gene at netreach.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:03 PM
> > To: Clew Workgroup (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: Long over due
> > 
> > 
> > I think we should prepare a general "who we are and what we 
> > do" document for
> > the public.  The http 1.1 issues are  important and need to 
> > be discussed,
> > however I feel that we should first work on some explanatory 
> > documentation
> > (for the public non-techies) regarding ARINs functionality 
> > and operational
> > procedures.
> > 
> > -gene
> > 
> > -------------------------------
> > Gene J. Jakominich Jr.
> > Network Administrator
> > NetReach, Inc.
> > 215.283.2300x111
> > 215.283.2335 fax
> > http://www.netreach.net
> > -------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:hcb at clark.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:06 PM
> > To: Bill Darte; Clew Workgroup (E-mail)
> > Subject: Re: Long over due
> > 
> > 
> > At 8:19 AM -0500 5/10/2000, Bill Darte wrote:
> > >Clew members...
> > >
> > >At the Calgary meeting many of spoke about the need to get the CLEW
> > >workgroup established and working on substantive issues that 
> > members and
> > the
> > >industry need.....Education about ARIN, addressing, whatever....
> > >
> > >I promised that when I got back I would prime the workgroup 
> > with a message.
> > >A message that would elicit response to see if the mail 
> > server 'really
> > >works' and to see if anyone would  'really respond'.... so 
> > here it is.....
> > >
> > >Is anyone listening out there?
> > >
> > >I propose that each of you identify one, just 1, topic that 
> > you think would
> > >be of interest or is needed by the address providers or 
> > consumers....  I
> > >would be willing to aggregate the list and prioritize the 
> > efforts toward
> > >accomplishing the tasks on the list.
> > 
> > My hot button is probably microallocations and recommended 
> > multihoming practices.
> > 
> > >
> > >So, please send your topic and let's get started.
> > >
> > >BTW....my topic is the creation of a two-day workshop that 
> > explains about
> > >addressing history, the dilemmas of addressing and route 
> > tables, the need
> > >for conservation, ARIN and it's agenda...ICANN and it's 
> > agenda....IPv6 and
> > >it's agenda....etc.   This seminar would be taught by me and 
> > would travel
> > to
> > >whatever ISP arranged customer/industry gathering which 
> > requests it on a
> > >first-come, first-served basis.  Local organizations would 
> > support the cost
> > >of the local arrangements and seminar leaders travel..... 
> > the cost of the
> > >leader would be supported by ARIN out of a Education fund, to be
> > >established.  The actual leader would be an ARIN employee or 
> > some contract
> > >educator like myself or others.
> > 
> > As far as the seminar, I do have a book out, _Designing Addressing 
> > Architectures for Routing and Switching_ (Macmillan), that could 
> > serve as the basis for such a course.
> > 
> > I am now working for Nortel, which is very supportive of my getting 
> > involved here.
> > 
> > >
> > >Bill Darte
> > >ARIN AC member
> > 
> 





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