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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello Andrew, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks for your question. <o:p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Only holders of resources received directly from ARIN are able to create ROAs for those resources.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Organizations who are recipients of reallocated or detailed reassignments can create IRR objects, not RPKI ROAs for those resources.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Organizations who are recipients of simple reassignments may not user IRR or RPKI services.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Brad Gorman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sr Product Owner, Routing Security<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ARIN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">arin-tech-discuss <arin-tech-discuss-bounces@arin.net> on behalf of Andrew Gallo <akg1330@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, June 24, 2024 at 10:52<br>
<b>To: </b>David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu><br>
<b>Cc: </b>arin-tech-discuss@arin.net <arin-tech-discuss@arin.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [arin-tech-discuss] Who can generate ROAs when a holder reassigns or reallocations address space?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I like that idea. I was thinking along the same lines.<br>
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When a prefix is delegated, associate a Routing POC with the prefix <br>
which would be allowed to generate ROAs and IRR objects. If no <br>
association is made, only the parent can take these actions.<br>
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Question- do you think the delegating/parent holder should be allowed to <br>
generate ROAs if there is a downstream Routing POC?<br>
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On 6/24/2024 10:08 AM, David Farmer wrote:<br>
> I wonder if a tactic to address this issue is expanding the use of the<br>
> Router POC. Maybe a Router POC could be created at the resource level or<br>
> with a Detailed Reassignment instead of a Router POC at the Organization<br>
> Level, providing a fine-grained mechanism to delegate control of ROA and<br>
> IRR.<br>
><br>
> Just a thought.<br>
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> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 8:34</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">AM Andrew Gallo <akg1330@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
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>> If a holder of address resources reassigns or reallocates a portion of<br>
>> that space, who can create an RPKI ROA? The original holder (parent),<br>
>> the downstream org that has the delegated portion of the space?<br>
>><br>
>> The three options for reassignment/reallocation are<br>
>> Simple Reassignment<br>
>> Detailed Reassignment<br>
>> Reallocation<br>
>> (definitions below)<br>
>><br>
>> Based on my reading, Simple Reassignment allows only the 'parent' (or<br>
>> delegating) org allowed to create ROAs. But what about Detailed? The<br>
>> downstream org can have POCs and maintain reverse nameserver records.<br>
>> Can they also generate ROAs or IRR objects?<br>
>><br>
>> What about Reallocation?<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> Simple Reassignment<br>
>>> Use this option if you will manage abuse and network contacts for<br>
>>> your customer.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Detailed Reassignment<br>
>>> Use this for a downstream organization that needs to maintain its<br>
>>> own reverse nameservers and/or separate Point of Contact (POC)<br>
>>> information.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Reallocation<br>
>>> Use this for a downstream organization that needs to maintain its<br>
>>> own reverse nameservers and/or separate Point of Contact (POC)<br>
>>> information and make reassignments of IP addresses to its own customers.<br>
>>><br>
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