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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks for the update Jon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">You have been very helpful and much obliged
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Thanks ,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Clinton<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Senior Network Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Global Telecoms – GM/OV<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Sandyford Industrial Estate,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Desk: +</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">353-1-2074616</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:clinton.slowey@gm.com">clinton.slowey@gm.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> Jon Worley [mailto:jonw@arin.net]
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<b>Sent:</b> 15 June 2015 15:24<br>
<b>To:</b> Clinton E Slowey<br>
<b>Cc:</b> arin-tech-discuss@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-tech-discuss] Geo Location<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hello Clinton,</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">ARIN doesn’t provide any geolocation services. We maintain registration data for resources registered in ARIN’s database, but that information reflects who the resources are registered to (e.g.
GM, which is headquartered in Detroit), not where the resources are being used. There are some things you may be able to do through ARIN that will assist in geolocation, but we can’t guarantee they’ll accomplish what you’re seeking. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One option is to publish reassignment information for <span style="font-size:10.0pt">198.208.27.0/24 with the local street address at which the subnet is used. 198.208.27.0/24 is currently within a direct assignment. Direct assignments
are issued to end users like GM; since end users aren't assigning IP addresses to customers, they can’t reassign within their blocks. You could request that we change the network type to a direct allocation, which is what ISPs get. Reassignments are allowed
within direct allocations since ISPs need to subdelegate space to customers. To request that the network be changed to a direct allocation, one of the registered points of contact for the block can send in an Ask ARIN request via our web site. We’ll then
let you know whether it’s possible and if so, what the implications would be (specifically, since ISPs are charged under a different fee schedule than end users, it could raise or lower your annual fees).</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Another option would be to publish information in a routing registry - either ARIN’s or one of the others listed at the URL below:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Routing registries allow you to publish information about how your resources are being used. Some of the objects allow you to specify a country code, which may be of assistance in conveying where the resources are being used. You can
find some basic information about publishing routing information for ARIN-registered resources in RIPE’s routing registry at the URL below:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://labs.ripe.net/Members/denis/using-the-ripe-database-as-an-internet-routing-registry">https://labs.ripe.net/Members/denis/using-the-ripe-database-as-an-internet-routing-registry</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A third option for the future would be to transfer the registration of the GM resources used outside the ARIN region to the appropriate regional Internet registry (RIR). At this point inter-RIR transfers are allowed only between ARIN and
APNIC, but it’s expected that inter-RIR transfers will be possible between ARIN and RIPE in the future. If/when that happens, GM would have the option to request that its resources used in the RIPE region be transferred to RIPE, which may aid you in geolocation
by registering the resources with street addresses at which they’re being used. Note that this is more of a permanent solution; if you expect to frequently change the location at which resources are used, it might not be a good fit.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You also have the option to contact sites and/or geolocation data providers directly to request they adjust their geolocation for your IP addresses. Most large content providers have some sort of capability to report geolocation errors,
although it may take some take (e.g. a month or more) to get them corrected. You could also contact geolocation data providers directly to see whether they can adjust geolocation data for your range. We don’t have a list of those providers, but you should
be able to find them with a few web searches.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Finally, if you need any further assistance, you might find it more helpful to post to a network operators forum, e.g. the NANOG mailing list:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Other network operators have likely run into the same problems and may be able to offer you more specific information as to how to correct the problem.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jon Worley<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:hostmaster@arin.net">hostmaster@arin.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Clinton E Slowey <<a href="mailto:clinton.slowey@gm.com">clinton.slowey@gm.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, June 12, 2015 at 10:57 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:arin-tech-discuss@arin.net">arin-tech-discuss@arin.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:arin-tech-discuss@arin.net">arin-tech-discuss@arin.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[arin-tech-discuss] Geo Location<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Hi Arin-Tech</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">I am trying to find out the process to get regional IP address space registered correctly for GEO location for our regional DMZ’s across the globe within GM . Can you tell me what is the process
to get this done ?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">For example we have a DMZ in Germany that’s is advertising 198.208.27.x /24 network but when I look up the location its registered as the supernet /16 based in Detroit . We want to use geo-location
to ensure our customers are routed locally to regional services like google etc rather than routed to the US..</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">IP details below</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><a href="http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-198-208-0-0-1/pft">http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-198-208-0-0-1/pft</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Thanks ,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Clinton</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Clinton Slowey</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Senior Network Engineer</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Global Telecoms – GM/OV</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Sandyford Industrial Estate,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Dublin, Ireland.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Desk: +353-1-2074616</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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