<div dir="ltr">I disagree with this policy as written. Simply adding "within the ARIN service area" to the current wording prevents a scenario that should be permitted and allows a scenario that some people would believe should be disallowed.<br><br>1. Someone with an ARIN IPv6 allocation that they are using globally, according to section 9, Out of Region Use, should also be able to use their 4.10 allocation to provide NAT64 for their IPv6 allocation. The current language prevents this because it involves a potential IPv6 deployment outside the ARIN service area.<br><br>2. Conversely, the current policy seems to allow someone with an IPv6 allocation from another RIR, but used within the ARIN region, to qualify for a 4.10 allocation. This would involve deploying IPv6 within the ARIN service area.<br><br>3. Obviously, we don't want someone to receive a 4.10 allocation from ARIN and then use it with an IPv6 allocation from another RIR completely outside the ARIN service area.<br><br>Instead, a 4.10 allocation MUST only support ARIN IPv6 allocations and MUST NOT be used outside the intended scope of those IPv6 allocations. In other words, the 4.10 allocation SHOULD be used concurrently and congruently with the IPv6 allocations, allowing the 4.10 allocation to be used outside the ARIN service region if and only if the IPv6 allocations are also being used outside the ARIN service region in accordance with section 9, Out of Region Use.<br><br>I recommend adding a new bullet point to section 4.10, as illustrated below.<br><ul><li>Allocations made under this policy must be used only to support IPv6 allocations made by ARIN. Further, the use of the allocation must be concurrent and congruent with these IPv6 allocations.</li></ul>This bullet aims to allow #1 and disallow #2 and #3 from the list above.<br><br>Thanks!<div><br><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 12:28 PM Pellak, Kaitlyn via ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)">Hello PPML,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)">I’m writing to give you all an update on 2025-8: Reserve 4.10 Space for In-Region Use after
our Public Policy Meeting in October and completion of the Staff and Legal review.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)">This policy was
</span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(149,79,114)"><u style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/ARIN56/day1_transcript/#draft-policy-arin-2025-8-reserving-4-10-space-for-in-region-use" title="https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/ARIN56/day1_transcript/#draft-policy-arin-2025-8-reserving-4-10-space-for-in-region-use" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(149,79,114)" target="_blank">presented
as a draft at ARIN 56 in Texas</a></u></span><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)">. There was no concern from the attendees at the meeting about this policy and it received positive feedback. The community
was in agreement that this policy will bring the NRPM (specifically 4.10) into alignment with how ARIN staff are already interpreting the policy.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)">The staff and legal review, completed November 12, reaffirms this intention: “This policy
does not alter existing review practices; it formally documents the longstanding approach ARIN staff has used and will continue to apply.”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)">With this in mind, we plan to move the policy to recommended draft at our December meeting.
My question to the ppml: is the language of the policy sufficient and do you agree that this policy should be moved to recommended draft status? Policy statement below for reference:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)">Change the second sentence in NRPM Section 4.10 from:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)">“This IPv4 allocation will be set aside and dedicated to facilitate IPv6 deployment.”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)">to:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)">“This IPv4 allocation will be set aside and dedicated to facilitate IPv6 deployment within
the ARIN service area”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)">Thanks all,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;text-indent:0px;margin:0in"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)">Kaitlyn</span></p>
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