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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Hello All,</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Thank you for the
thoughtful perspectives shared — I hear strong points on both sides:</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">• <span style="font-weight:bold">LIR</span> aligns with global terminology and avoids
the vernacular baggage of “ISP.”</p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">• <span style="font-weight:bold">ISP</span> is consistent with ARIN’s historic usage
and avoids confusion with structures (like NIRs) that don’t exist in our
region.</p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"> </p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">To bridge this, I’d
suggest we converge on a practical editorial approach:</p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">• Select one
preferred term for the NRPM (ISP or LIR).</p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">• Add a clear
definition note stating that ISP and LIR are used interchangeably in ARIN
policy.</p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"> </p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">This way, ARIN
policy remains globally intelligible while providing clarity to our community.</p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"> </p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Would others support
moving in this direction?</p>
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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Best,</p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Mohibul Mahmud</p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">Cloud Engineer,
Microsoft </p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-family:Arial;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">ARIN</span><span style="font-family:Calibri"> Advisory
Council Candidate</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohibul-mahmud-8592326/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohibul-mahmud-8592326/</a></p>
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</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 11:26 PM John Santos <<a href="mailto:john@egh.com">john@egh.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">If having a new name with no baggage would help, maybe something like "Delegated <br>
Resource Registry" would work.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 9/17/2025 6:35 PM, William Herrin wrote:<br>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:13 PM David Farmer <<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu" target="_blank">farmer@umn.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I think you are referring to National Internet Registries (NIRs),<br>
>> which are not called Local Internet Registries (LIRs) and are<br>
>> not confused with LIRs.<br>
> Hi David,<br>
><br>
> Either way the point remains: sub-registries in the other regions are<br>
> not inherently expected to be the operators of the infrastructure<br>
> services with which those IP addresses are used. ARIN has some gray<br>
> area on the subject, but the rule to which exceptions apply is that<br>
> your IP addresses are either coming from your network provider or<br>
> directly from ARIN, not a different party altogether. ARIN is not a<br>
> LIR and the "registry" terminology for your network provider is a poor<br>
> fit. If anyone hates the "ISP" terminology, I respectfully ask them to<br>
> suggest a better phrase, not a worse one.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Bill Herrin<br>
><br>
><br>
-- <br>
John Santos<br>
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.<br>
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