<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>As long as Grandfathering is in place I think I am OK with it.</div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Gerry" <ggeorge@digisolv.com><br><b>To: </b>"ARIN PPML" <arin-ppml@arin.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"Brian Jones" <brian.jones@vt.edu><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, July 15, 2025 2:01:04 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[arin-ppml] Request for Community Feedback: Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">Hello PPML Community!!</span><br></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><br></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">As the shepherd of this policy, along with Brian Jones, I am seeking direction from the community on how the AC should proceed with this draft policy. </span></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><br></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">An update was posted on June 27 {<!-- --><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2023_8/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Current Text</a>}, and there was also a summary of comments posted to PPML on June 26/27. This elicited some initial comments, but we have not really received any clear direction with regards to continued interest in moving this policy forward or not. </span></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><br></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">I do note that one of the key drivers of interest at the time was the inclusion of protections for those already on the waitlist - grandfathering clause. However, since this clause was added, comments seems to have petered out, and it has thus become somewhat difficult to determine whether there is any ongoing or continued interest.</span></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><br></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">This message is a further attempt at outreach to solicit feedback from the community, in order to inform AC's action and direction.</span></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><br></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">You can find the full details of Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8 here:</span></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px;padding-left:30px"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2023_8/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2023_8/</a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></p><p style="margin:0px"><br></p><p style="margin:0px">and the PPML summary posting (Title: Summary & Update: Draft Policy ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 maximum allocation) to PPML here:</p><p style="margin:0px;padding-left:30px"><a href="https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2025-June/037935.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2025-June/037935.html</a><br data-mce-bogus="1"></p><p style="margin:0px;padding-left:30px"><br></p><p style="margin:0px"><br></p><div><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">Please let us know if you support this draft as written, or if you have any comments on the draft policy - positive or negative.</span></div><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><br></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">Should we keep working on it.</span></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><br></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><br></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">Kind regards.</span></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">(<em>and on behalf of Brian</em>)</span></p><p style="color:#000000;font-family:'times new roman';font-size:14.16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff;margin:0px"><br></p></div><br><div><div style="color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff"><div style="color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff"><div style="color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff"><div style="color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff"><div style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 )"><span style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 128 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif"><strong>Gerry E. George</strong></span><br><span style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:small">ICT Consultant and Business Solutions Architect;</span></div><div style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 )"><span style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif"><strong>Digi<em>Solv</em>, Inc.</strong> [P.O. Box 1677, Castries, Saint Lucia]</span> </div><div style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 )"><hr></div><div style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 )"><strong>Mobile</strong>: (758) 728-4858 /<strong> Int'l Office</strong>: (347) 450-3444<span style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none;display:inline !important"> / Skype: DigiSolv</span><br><strong>Email</strong>: <a href="mailto:ggeorge@digisolv.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">ggeorge@digisolv.com</a> / <strong>LinkedIn</strong>: <em><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerrygeorge/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerrygeorge/</a></em><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div></div><div style="color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;background-color:#ffffff"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );color:rgb( 121 , 121 , 121 );font-family:'arial';font-size:medium"><br class=""></span><i class="" style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );font-size:14px;font-family:'times new roman'"><b class=""><span style="color:rgb( 85 , 122 , 52 )">Please consider the environment before printing this email. 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