<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-90e282e2-7fff-3f04-ec93-00bdbbd01f02"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Subject:</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> Feedback on ARIN-2024-7: Addition of Definitions for General and Special Purpose IP Addresses</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Dear ARIN Policy Team,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Thank you for sharing the revised draft policy ARIN-2024-7. I appreciate the effort to make ARIN policies clearer and more concise.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">I agree with William Herrin’s feedback regarding the term "Reserved." Since it has a specific meaning in IP standards, using a different term, such as "Defined Purpose IP Addresses" or "Special Purpose IP Addresses," might reduce potential confusion and align better with the intended purpose.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Additionally, it could be helpful to include a few examples of how these addresses might be used (e.g., testing, critical infrastructure, IPv6 support). This would provide additional clarity for those interpreting the policy.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">I look forward to further discussions on this and welcome feedback from others in the community.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Best regards,</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><br></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Mohibul Mahmud</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Cloud Engineer at Microsoft</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">ARIN 52 Fellow</span></p></span><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 12:00 PM <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-request@arin.net">arin-ppml-request@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send ARIN-PPML mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Revised - ARIN-2024-7: Addition of Definitions for General<br>
and Special Purpose IP Addresses (ARIN)<br>
2. Re: Revised - ARIN-2024-7: Addition of Definitions for<br>
General and Special Purpose IP Addresses (William Herrin)<br>
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 13:41:38 -0500<br>
From: ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank">info@arin.net</a>><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br>
Subject: [arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2024-7: Addition of Definitions<br>
for General and Special Purpose IP Addresses<br>
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The following Draft Policy has been revised:<br>
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* ARIN-2024-7: Addition of Definitions for General and Special Purpose IP Addresses<br>
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Revised text is below and can be found at:<br>
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<a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2024_7/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2024_7/</a><br>
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Eddie Diego<br>
Policy Analyst<br>
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)<br>
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Draft Policy ARIN-2024-7: Addition of Definitions for General and Special Purpose IP Addresses<br>
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Problem Statement:<br>
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The Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM) often treats general purpose and special purpose IP addresses differently. Unfortunately, we don?t have a convenient to use term to describe these categories, so policy often becomes either excessively wordy or does not correctly capture the intent. Examples of this can be found in section 4.1.8 of the NRPM, and in (currently pending) Draft Policies ARIN-2023-8 (where the fact that 4.4 and 4.10 space isn?t counted against an organization is repeated numerous times) and ARIN-2022-12 (where the text does not exclude 4.4 and 4.10 allocations from being counted against an organization, but it is the intent that those allocations should be ignored). Additionally, temporary allocations under section 11 are rarely carved out, even when 4.4 and 4.10 are, even though it is likely the policy?s intent that these too should be ignored.<br>
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Policy Statement:<br>
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Add the following definition to Section 2<br>
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2.18 Reserved IPv4 and IPv6 Addresses<br>
Addresses that are reserved by ARIN for specific purposes including, but not limited to; maintaining critical infrastructure, facilitating IPv6 deployment, or temporary experimental purposes as approved by ARIN.<br>
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Timetable for Implementation: Immediate.<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:42:36 -0800<br>
From: William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2024-7: Addition of<br>
Definitions for General and Special Purpose IP Addresses<br>
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On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 10:41?AM ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank">info@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> 2.18 Reserved IPv4 and IPv6 Addresses<br>
> Addresses that are reserved by ARIN for specific purposes including,<br>
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"Reserved" has a well known meaning in the context of IP address<br>
standards. This is not that meaning. Pick another word.<br>
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If you want to avoid overlap with other uses, I haven't heard "defined<br>
purpose addresses" before.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Bill Herrin<br>
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William Herrin<br>
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