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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/08/2024 22:02, Matthew Kaufman
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<div dir="ltr">If an organization comes with the technical
justification and financial backing sufficient to really need a
/16 as their initial allocation, staff shouldn't have anything
blocking that.</div>
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<p>Then you believe that may still be possible ?</p>
<p>I don't understand the concern to leave things are they are so
opened for so distant and near impossible scenario, just because
in a very distant theory it can happen. Do some folks find
themselves in a future scenario that could be one of the them
missing it ?<br>
Even in a scenario where a /20 can be justified - which is really
a lot even for any big company - what would be the problem, if
really needed to get a second /20 in the future ?<br>
What is the possible damage to change the policy to restrict in
/20 now ? What we, as a community, will lose with that ?</p>
<p>I consider it is better to keep things more realist in this
context and therefore I support the proposal.</p>
<p>Fernando<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at
2:34 PM David Farmer via ARIN-PPML <<a
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<div dir="ltr">/16 is a reasonable limit; keep the current
NRPM. One /16 allocation in nearly a decade does not
concern me. /16 allocations were intended to be rare but
possible; in fact, I believe the policy is functioning as
intended. If we see several additional /16 allocations in
the next couple of years, I could be convinced to
reconsider my position. But at this point, I think this
policy is premature.</div>
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<div>Thanks</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at
2:12 PM Elizabeth Goodson <<a
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<div>Hello PPML,</div>
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<div>As lead shepherd on ARIN-2024-8, I'm reaching out
for additional feedback from the community on this
policy following the robust discussion here in June.</div>
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<div>The previous discussion did not come to a clear
community consensus with opinions falling in
multiple categories (in no particular order):</div>
<div>- /20 is a reasonable limit, support the Draft
Policy as written</div>
<div>- /16 is a reasonable limit, keep current NRPM</div>
<div>- Allow initial allocations above a certain size
that are not on a nibble boundary (e.g. /19, /18,
/17)</div>
<div>- Add clarification about what designs would not
justify a certain size initial allocation (e.g. 6RD)</div>
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<div>Questions for the community:</div>
<div>- Do you support the draft policy as written?</div>
<div>- If not, can the policy be changed so you would
support it? What change(s) do you support?</div>
<div>- Should the community continue to work on the
policy or abandon it?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Liz Goodson</div>
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<div>Problem Statement:<br>
In order to promote aggregation, the NRPM
currently allows initial allocations up to a /16.
However, the entire IPv6 address space only
contains 65536 /16s, and the space allocated to
IANA for globally routable purposes only contains
8192 /16s. Therefore, a /16 is a sufficiently
large portion of the IPv6 address space that the
goal of conservation starts to outweigh the goal
of aggregation.<br>
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Policy Statement:<br>
6.5.2.1b: Replace "In no case shall an ISP receive
more than a /16 initial allocation." with "In no
case shall a LIR receive more than a /20 initial
allocation."<br>
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