<div dir="ltr">The shepherds allow the policy proposals to go through the process unchanged as long as it meets the criteria. So in a clean proposal case, zero. However, it is sometimes necessary to suggest edits to the proposal to the policy author to ensure it meets the criteria of a Draft. At that point the shepherds will reach out to the author suggesting it may not meet one or many parts of the criteria. They do not change this on their own. The author is in charge of the policy at this point. Of the policies that did not meet the initial criteria in the last few years, 2-4 emails back and forth to tighten up the language . Occasionally that requires a zoom call between the author and shepherds. There was one at the beginning of this year left over from 2023, that required several emails each month for two months. Shepards are also open to community feedback including the authors once it is in Draft form. I believe that is also why we do not see frequent petitions. Once it is in the draft stage, we take input from the entire community. We encourage authors' input at every step of the process. However, PDP dictates that the policy is fair, impartial, and technically sound and has community support. Community support comes from both PPML and the public policy meeting. If any author has issues with the language of the policy submitted, I encourage their feedback on PPML and the public policy meeting so it can all be taken into consideration. I will note that I can only speak to my experience on the AC and as Chair. I cannot speak for previous years. <br><div><br></div><div>-Kat Hunter</div><div>AC Chair</div><div>Comcast</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 2:05 PM Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com">hannigan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 11:48 AM Kat Hunter <<a href="mailto:takokat81@gmail.com" target="_blank">takokat81@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>[ clip ]</div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>The pen is in the author's hands until the point it is moved to Draft. [ .... ] I can tell you the current AC works very hard with authors to get the policy into a state where the community can review it and give it the best chance of success.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Out of curiosity, how many emails on average go back and forth between shepherds and author(s) typical? I doubt there's an official measurement. Ballpark is fine.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>-M< <br></div></div></div>
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