<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 8, 2023, at 09:43, WOOD Alison * DAS <Alison.WOOD@das.oregon.gov> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Happy Friday ARIN Community!<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The Policy Experience Report from ARIN 52 brought about great discussion on 4.10 space and I would appreciate your feedback.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">A growing number of organizations are requesting multiple /24s from the 4.10 reserve pool to provide services in geographically distanced data centers, invoking multiple discrete networks under section 4.5.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">ARIN staff has been using their discretion in accordance with the policy to deny these additional requests for 4.10 space, due to not having ‘compelling criteria’.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">These requests are frequently declined because they don’t meet the criteria for 4.10 space and are not truly multiple discreet networks, but geographically diverse deployed servers.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Questions for the community<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">• Is a policy clarification necessary or is ARIN is making the correct decision for these type of requests?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I don’t think policy clarification I needed. If the network is otherwise MDN, then it should qualify as MDN for 4.10. If it is not, then it should not. Sounds like staff is already adhering to this, so I don’t see a problem.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">• If clarification is needed, how should the definition of multiple discrete networks in section 4.5 be improved?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I think it would be difficult to improve this definition without creating unintended consequences. Given that staff seems to be getting it right so far, I think there is more risk n tampering than in letting it continue to work as intended.</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">• Should there be a maximum number of /24s available under 4.10?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>No. When it runs out, it runs out. It’s not like people haven’t had plenty of warning that IPv4 is limited and will run out at some point.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div></body></html>