<div dir="auto">This time strangely I will have to agree with Owen.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This is the forum to discuss this topic that concerns everyone here. It is very pertinent. Thanks we are having this discussion than not having.</div><div dir="auto">And as far as I saw nothing got out of the controll and everyone is being able to put up their view and experience without limitation.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Why direct it to a less number of people or event to staff only if it concerns very much here ? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Fernando</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 27 Oct 2023, 15:33 Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML, <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That sounds good in principle, Michael, but the reality is that none of the fora you suggested provide for an interactive discussion amongst the broader community. <br>
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While it’s true that the general-members list reached the electorate, the impact of the AC is felt not only by the electorate, but also by the broader community. <br>
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Owen<br>
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> On Oct 27, 2023, at 11:22, Michael Abejuela <<a href="mailto:mabejuela@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mabejuela@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hello PPML participants,<br>
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> I have observed that the PPML discussions have become increasingly focused on election related items. As this is the forum for policy discussions, and the fact that we are in the middle of an election cycle, I would ask that the participants provide their election-related suggestions through the more appropriate avenues stated below. There are a variety of considerations that are being discussed, and in order to make sure they are properly catalogued and taken into due consideration for future election cycles, we have various avenues to provide such feedback that are more appropriate than PPML:<br>
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> 1) The General Members Mailing list;<br>
> 2) Through the ARIN ACSP intake; and<br>
> 3) Directly to <a href="mailto:elections@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">elections@arin.net</a><br>
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> ARIN may also seek community input after the elections are completed for feedback and suggestions on future election cycles; and given that there is so much discussion on this topic, that will definitely be taken into consideration.<br>
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> Thank you for the robust discussions and participation,<br>
> -Michael <br>
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> On 10/27/23, 2:03 PM, "ARIN-PPML on behalf of Richard Laager" <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>> on behalf of <a href="mailto:rlaager@wiktel.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rlaager@wiktel.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rlaager@wiktel.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rlaager@wiktel.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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>> On 2023-10-27 12:36, Leif Sawyer via ARIN-PPML wrote:<br>
>> William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bill@herrin.us</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bill@herrin.us</a>>> writes:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I believe that prior interaction with each segment of the community,<br>
>>> outside of their duties as AC, should be a hard requirement for rating<br>
>>> a candidate as "qualified" during the elections process.<br>
>>> Quantitatively? Start with something simple: one policy-related post<br>
>>> to PPML while not an AC member and you have to speak at the mike at<br>
>>> least once at an ARIN meeting. Else you're rated "qualifications not<br>
>>> demonstrated."<br>
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>> Thank you for your suggestion and clarification, and I'll take it under advisement.<br>
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> It might not be best to go from zero to hard requirement.<br>
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> In other words, _if_ this is being added as a thing that the NomCom <br>
> should care about, I recommend starting with this being one of the <br>
> factors that differentiates "Qualified" and "Well Qualified". If that <br>
> works out and _if_ the desire is there to make it a hard requirement, <br>
> that can be done a year or two later.<br>
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> I'm not currently expressing a position on whether this should be a <br>
> factor to consider. I haven't given it enough thought.<br>
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> Richard<br>
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