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<p class="MsoNormal">Greetings,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The ARIN AC is hearing some initial opposition on the draft policy but we are also sensing that some changes to the policy might change some minds. There is a potential scenario in which a large number of IXPs will arise based on relatively
recent news item targeting underserved markets. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The study cited in the original email to the PPML shows that more than 2 out of 3 IXPs globally have fewer than 32 members registered, for which a /26 is more than sufficient.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We want to gauge whether the community might support some combination of the following options to make this draft more balanced:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">a. Permit larger assignment if the organization demonstrates an expected utilization of 50% of the requested block within 24 months. (similar to transfer requirements)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">b. Permit a range of sizes (from as low as possibly /27 up to /24) upon request, with no documentation needed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We welcome the opinions of all community members.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gus Reese<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">ARIN Advisory Council<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">greese@cogentco.com<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Andrew Dul<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 29, 2023 11:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin Blumberg <kevinb@thewire.ca>; arin-ppml@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2023-2: /26 initial IPv4 allocation for IXPs<a name="_GoBack"></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In 4.4 it does say “ARIN will make a list of these blocks publicly available.” Is that information available with the IXP name etc?
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe this is the list that ARIN is currently publishing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.arin.net/reference/research/statistics/microallocations/#micro-allocations-for-exchange-points">https://www.arin.net/reference/research/statistics/microallocations/#micro-allocations-for-exchange-points</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was going to say it probably would be helpful if there was a machine readable format for this...but looks like someone already thought of that...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/community/acsp/suggestions/2019/2019-24/">https://www.arin.net/participate/community/acsp/suggestions/2019/2019-24/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Andrew<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6/29/2023 8:42 AM, Kevin Blumberg wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t support this policy. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ll echo what other operators have said, renumbering is non-trivial at an IXP.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is ARIN even able to provide reverse DNS delegation for a /26 at this point?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The CI pool is in my mind working as intended, the drawn down from the pool as shown earlier has been reasonable.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If the definition of who is an IXP for the purposes of getting space, that is an entirely different proposal and problem statement. In 4.4 it does say “ARIN will make a list of these blocks publicly available.” Is that information available
with the IXP name etc? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kevin Blumberg<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> ARIN-PPML <a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">
<arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt Peterson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 21, 2023 4:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2023-2: /26 initial IPv4 allocation for IXPs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's clear this proposal did not receive feedback from those of us who operate IXP's
<i>(or those who lived through the <a href="http://ep.net">ep.net</a> era).</i> Renumbering events are often multi-year efforts for an IXP, this "savings" is not worth the operational overhead. I'm not in support of this proposal. This is a solution looking
for a problem, we have both the appropriate pool size and a method to refill.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If anything, the 4.4 requirement language around <i>"other participants (minimum of three total)"
</i>could use some attention. ARIN's service region has many "shadow IXP's", which may have 3 unique ASN's
<i>(say a route server, route collector, and management network) </i>- but are all operated by the same organization. That does not seem like a legitimate definition of an exchange point, especially when that operator is the only participant over several years.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 8:54 AM ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net">info@arin.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 15 June 2023, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted “ARIN-prop-320: /26 initial IPv4 allocation for IXPs” as a Draft Policy.<br>
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Draft Policy ARIN-2023-2 is below and can be found at:<br>
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<a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2023_2" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2023_2</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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