<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">It’s an interesting idea, but thinking it through just a little, does the community or ARIN actually benefit from tis in any meaningful way?<br><div><br></div><div>I couldn’t come up with any benefit myself, but I often get accused of lacking imagination.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jun 20, 2023, at 09:51, Martin Hannigan <hannigan@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div><div dir="ltr"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Not to be pedantic, but I’m pretty sure my desktop still says “Renew DHCP lease”. Some ISPs offer additional addresses under a services agreement or license which would be my go to to work around this policy. Different legal terms, same effect. I’m not in favor, it seems un police-able.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">However, a potentially different idea would be if ARIN receives a complaint regarding IP addresses being leased or offered as a service to an indirect third party that the use of the addresses must be immediately reported to ARIN in detail including subscriber information with revocation as recourse for ARIN. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hope that helps,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-M<</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><div><br></div>Get<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://aka.ms/o0ukef" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">Outlook for iOS</a></div></div></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; display: inline-block; width: 1523.890625px;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;"></span><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net> on behalf of Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand@gmail.com><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 20, 2023 12:28:52 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN <info@arin.net><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>arin-ppml@arin.net <arin-ppml@arin.net><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2023-3: Amendment of the waitlist agreement to include a restriction on leasing</font><div> </div></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Is leasing defined anywhere in the NRPM? How would this be enforced? Is the intent to disallow all reassignments? To get ARIN into the business of inspecting customer contracts and network configs to see if there is a bona fide connectivity relationship vs. a fig-leaf one? Something else?<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>Scott</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 20, 2023, at 8:54 AM, ARIN <info@arin.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="x_WordSection1"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On 15 June 2023, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted “ARIN-prop-321: Amendment of the waitlist agreement to include a restriction on leasing” as a Draft Policy.</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Draft Policy ARIN-2023-3 is below and can be found at:</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2023_3" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2023_3</a></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">* Technically Sound</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">* Supported by the Community</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The PDP can be found at:</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/</a></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/</a></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Regards,</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Eddie Diego</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Policy Analyst</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Draft Policy ARIN-2023-3: Amendment of the waitlist agreement to include a restriction on leasing</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Problem Statement:</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Currently section 4.18 prohibits the transfer of waitlist space for a period of 60 months. However, there are no restrictions on leasing out the space immediately after obtaining it from the waitlist.</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Policy statement:</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Modify the current text in 4.18 from:</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4 and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that an organization may qualify for at any one time is a /22. Organizations will be able to elect a smaller block size than they qualify for down to a /24. Organizations which hold more than a /20 equivalent of IPv4 space in aggregate (exclusive of special use space received under section 4.4 or 4.10) are not eligible to apply. Address space distributed from the waitlist will not be eligible for transfer, with the exception of Section 8.2 transfers, for a period of 60 months. This policy will be applied to all future distributions from the waitlist to include those currently listed.</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">to</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4 and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that an organization may qualify for at any one time is a /22. Organizations will be able to elect a smaller block size than they qualify for down to a /24. Organizations which hold more than a /20 equivalent of IPv4 space in aggregate (exclusive of special use space received under section 4.4 or 4.10) are not eligible to apply. Address space distributed from the waitlist will not be eligible for lease or transfer, with the exception of Section 8.2 transfers, for a period of 60 months. This policy will be applied to all future distributions from the waitlist to include those currently listed.</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Comments: None</div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Timetable for implementation: Immediate</div></div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>ARIN-PPML</span><br><span>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to</span><br><span>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net).</span><br><span>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:</span><br><span>https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</span><br><span>Please contact info@arin.net if you experience any issues.</span><br></div></blockquote></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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