<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I officially have no dog in this fight. IPv4 is done. It’s time to move on.<div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 24, 2023, at 07:57, Hunter, Kathleen via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml@arin.net> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Matt- Just to clarify, the slow start policy was implemented when the wait list did not exist. Slow start was to prevent large ISPs from coming in and getting large blocks like /16s at the start and prove they needed the space over a period of time. Those ISPs now, don’t even qualify for the waitlist because they already have a /20. Small blocks are barely available. Currently wait list policy should be pointed to as it states<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">“4.1.8. ARIN Waitlist<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4 and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that an organization may qualify for at any one time is a /22. Organizations will be able to elect a smaller block size than they qualify for down to a /24. Organizations which hold more than a /20 equivalent of IPv4 space in aggregate (exclusive of special use space received under section 4.4 or 4.10) are not eligible to apply.”<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> Because of the newest restrictions in the waitlist policy, it has essentially rendered Slow Start useless.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">-Kat Hunter<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 9pt;">Comcast LIR<o:p></o:p></span></i></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 9pt;">ARIN AC VC<o:p></o:p></span></i></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Matt Erculiani<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:37 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN <info@arin.net><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>arin-ppml@arin.net<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2023-1: Retire 4.2.1.4 Slow Start<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Loosely not in favor<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">> Staff has confirmed that this policy has not been used since 2018.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">It still may be a deterrent when seeking transfer or a place on the waiting list. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">While not a great reason to keep it around, I've frequently seen this policy referenced by ISPs for why they can't immediately lease out large blocks to customers "if we have to play by this rule, so do you". <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">-Matt<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 10:29 AM ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">info@arin.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On 18 May 2023, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-319: Retire 4.2.1.4. Slow Start" as a Draft Policy.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Draft Policy ARIN-2023-1 is below and can be found at:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2023_1/__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!HDtO8T-BPF6u8FBvBkhhhZP4Rhg9Iy847aQOrLgeT9qhU5SzRR-Fz7Efne3b7keLJ6GvZA5_wiqiOOLdMvU2TfLoA1w2rco$" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2023_1/</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">* Technically Sound<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">* Supported by the Community<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The PDP can be found at:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!HDtO8T-BPF6u8FBvBkhhhZP4Rhg9Iy847aQOrLgeT9qhU5SzRR-Fz7Efne3b7keLJ6GvZA5_wiqiOOLdMvU2TfLoYr-ZqQI$" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!HDtO8T-BPF6u8FBvBkhhhZP4Rhg9Iy847aQOrLgeT9qhU5SzRR-Fz7Efne3b7keLJ6GvZA5_wiqiOOLdMvU2TfLoSyNx7Ks$" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Regards,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Eddie Diego<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Policy Analyst<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Draft Policy ARIN-2023-1: Retire 4.2.1.4. Slow Start<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Problem Statement: <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Section 4.2.1.4 Slow Start has been a part of the NRPM for two decades, and successfully served to constrain the rate at which ARIN issued IPv4 address allocations to its members for many years. Following the exhaustion of the free pool, as well as the introduction and refinement of transfer policies, Slow Start has ceased to be applicable to the operations of ARIN's registration services. Staff has confirmed that this policy has not been used since 2018.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Policy statement: <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Retire 4.2.1.4 Slow Start<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Timetable for implementation: Immediate<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">_______________________________________________<br>ARIN-PPML<br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; 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