<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Noah very well said, and I completely agree!</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Capitalism decided otherwise... The business model changed the day IP brokers realised they could earn a living by sitting in their couches, running no useful IP-based network and thereby undermining the community-based RIR system role and long-standing objectives.</span></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 8:14 AM Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 2:33 PM Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>You can only lease what you own. </p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Is there any such thing as ownership?... My understanding has always been that resource members agreed to sign agreements with an RIR to become a member so that they can be afforded INR based on need to use the number IP based networks....<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p>What people are trying to do
here is pretend they own the resources and earn money with an
asset they don't own despite everything that what IP addresses
have always meant for.</p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">Its total chaos. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>IP leasing is an attestation that the resource holder doesn't
justify for those resources anymore, therefore they should be
revoked and assigned to someone else who really justifies for it.</p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Capitalism decided otherwise.... the business model changed the day IP brokers realised they could earn a living by seating in their couches, running no useful IP based network and thereby undermining the community based RIR system role and long standing objectives.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p>
ARIN should use any financial and legal resources it has to invest
in a efficient reclamation process in order to keep its missing to
assign shared resources to those who really need them to build
internet infrastructure, not do those who wish to speculate around
IP space.</p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Well various IP based business models cropped from the community and succeeded through the need based system.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="auto">The system ought to find itself and renew its bandwith and capacity if it will be able to continue serving the community as it always did.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Noah</div></div>
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