<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I posted a tread to the NANOG list along these lines. There are many (in the dozens) of networks I run across wanting to participate in BGP. They don’t need a /24 but that is the accepted norm. It would be a major undertaking to have people change filters. I think modern routers could accommodate the fables. The argument of legacy bhp routers not being able to handle the routing table is getting harder to swallow. They can filter out and take a default. <div><br></div><div><br><div><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>Justin </div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 27, 2023, at 4:51 PM, Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p>My answer is absolutely not to stay in the waiting list. Waiting
list should not be a hope for majority that are there, only for
those who have very little and may be able to wait as long as
necessary to get a few more to keep going with their business. Any
other needs that cannot wait should be done via a normal transfer
process. And someone that received something via a transfer has
conditions to do others and depend even less from the waiting
list.<br>
Also stimulating organizations to get a little as a /24 is bad for
everybody else as contributes to fragment and pollute even more
the global routing table.<br>
A /20 to /22 is enough for newer organizations to start with and
get into business. More than that go to the transfer market
besides improve technical stuff to know better how to live with
less IPv4.</p>
<p>Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/01/2023 18:35, WOOD Alison * DAS
wrote:<br>
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Received ip space is eligible for needs-based transfer after
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would like your feedback on a potential policy idea: With
waiting list times being in years, should an org be eligible
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