<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">You’re making little sense here.<div><br></div><div>If we refer to ARIN issued, then we’re literally excluding addresses not issued by ARIN from the policy, which I believe is not the intent.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Nov 3, 2022, at 15:06, Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
  
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  <div><p>In the case where ARIN issued then let's keep calling it by its
      name, so nobody can think otherwise and is always aware that
      something that was once issued can be revoked if rules surrounding
      that are circumvented, because it is not uncommon many thing that
      once issued that becomes a irrevocable property and orgs can do
      whatever they want with resources regardless of the policies.<br>
      For other cases where not issued than can call something else like
      ARIN-registered or something.</p><p>Fernando<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/11/2022 18:11, Owen DeLong via
      ARIN-PPML wrote:<br>
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      Rather than “ARIN-issued”, I suggest either “ARIN-registered” or
      “ARIN-recorded” or “ARIN-managed”.
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      <div>ARIN did not issue many of the allocations and assignments
        currently recorded in the ARIN database.</div>
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      <div>Otherwise, I support the policy as written. In fact, it is
        sufficiently non-operable in not changing the way in which ARIN
        manages the registry that I would even nominate it for
        consideration as an editorial change.</div>
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      <div>Owen</div>
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            <div>On Nov 3, 2022, at 08:46, ARIN <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:info@arin.net"><info@arin.net></a>
              wrote:</div>
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                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">The following Draft Policy has
                  been revised:<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">* ARIN-2022-12: Direct
                  Assignment Language Update<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Revised text is below and can be
                  found at:<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration:
                    underline;" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/</a><o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">You are encouraged to discuss
                  all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the
                  discussion to assess the conformance of this Draft
                  Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number
                  resource policy as stated in the Policy Development
                  Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">* Enabling Fair and Impartial
                  Number Resource Administration<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">* Technically Sound<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">* Supported by the Community<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">The PDP can be found at:<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration:
                    underline;" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/</a><o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Draft Policies and Proposals
                  under discussion can be found at:<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration:
                    underline;" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/</a><o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Regards,<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Sean Hopkins<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Senior Policy Analyst<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">American Registry for Internet
                  Numbers (ARIN)<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12:
                  ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Problem Statement:<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">As a result of ARIN’s fee
                  harmonization direct assignments are no longer being
                  utilized within ARIN databases therefore language
                  around that has been deprecated and should be
                  modernized.<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Policy Statement:<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Section 3.6.3:<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Remove “direct assignment” from
                  “This policy applies to every Organization that has a
                  direct assignment, direct allocation, or AS number
                  from ARIN (or one of its predecessor registries) or a
                  reallocation from an upstream ISP.”<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Section 4.2.2, paragraph 1:
                  change “direct assignments or allocations” to
                  “ARIN-issued IPv4 addresses”<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Section 4.2.2, paragraph 2:
                  change “direct allocations, direct assignments,
                  re-allocations or reassignments” to “ARIN-issued IPv4
                  addresses, re-allocations or reassignments”<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Section 4.3.2: change “direct
                  assignments or allocations” to “ARIN-issued IPv4
                  addresses”<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Section 6.5.8: change “Direct
                  Assignments from ARIN to End-user Organizations” to
                  “End-user Allocations”<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Section 8.5.4: change “direct
                  assignments or allocations” to “ARIN-issued IPv4
                  addresses”<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Section 8.5.6: change “direct
                  assignments or allocations” to “ARIN-issued IPv4
                  addresses”<o:p></o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div>
                <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                  Calibri, sans-serif;">Timetable for Implementation:
                  Immediate<o:p></o:p></div>
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