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<div class="">On 9 Aug 2022, at 5:10 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" class="">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">If you find a Whois entry that reflects resources assigned to a clearly dissolved entity,<br class="">
feel free to report it here: <a href="https://account.arin.net/public/whoisinaccuracy/report" class="">https://account.arin.net/public/whoisinaccuracy/report</a><br class="">
(Include sufficient detail to facilitate our verification of this status) <br class="">
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We will endeavor to look into such situations and correct where possible - considering
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My compliments John. I literally cannot recall the last time I encountered such a<br class="">
well-crafted and well-phrased non-committal non-responsive non-answer.<br class="">
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From where I am sitting, and based on my substantial knowledge of ARIN's past actions,<br class="">
your answer sounds an awful lot like "No, we're not going to do that. We have better<br class="">
things to do."<br class="">
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<div>Actually, my meaning is absolutely clear based on plain language usage – </div>
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Is it true that, as shown here: <a href="https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/waiting_list/" class="">
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there are currently approximately 407 different organizations that are awaiting the<br class="">
availability of IPv4 free pool resources, and that some of these have been waiting in<br class="">
the ARIN Wait List for very nearly seven full months for IPv4 block availability?<br class="">
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<div class="">Would you agree or disagree with the clearly evident fact that the organization<br class="">
denoted in the ARIN WHOIS data base via the handle CTC-211 is currently the<br class="">
registrant of the equivalent of an entire /17 IPv4 block, and that this same<br class="">
organization is and has been listed in public records available on the Colorado<br class="">
Secretary of State's web site as having been formally dissolved, by the State,<br class="">
in a formal legal action, nearly four full years ago?<br class="">
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<div class="">Would you agree or disagree that whoever is using those several IPv4 blocks that<br class="">
remain assigned to that organization (CTC-211) after it entered into an RSA contract<br class="">
with ARIN *and* after that organization was legally dissolved by the State of Colorado<br class="">
has no legal right to use the space, and that thus, whoever is doing that now is in<br class="">
fact simply squatting on that /17 worth of valuable IPv4 space? <br class="">
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<div>I have not reviewed the available information, as ARIN has a very able Registration </div>
<div>Services Team that will handle such with appropriate diligence (if a report is submitted...) </div>
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<div class="">Would you agree or disagree that if an entire /17 worth of IPv4 address space were<br class="">
returned to the ARIN free pool, that this could be used, eventually, to satisfy the<br class="">
pending requests of at least thirty two (32) different live and deserving organizations<br class="">
that are currently languishing patiently on the ARIN wait list?<br class="">
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That’s a logical conclusion in light of the maximum approved prefix sizes for issuance</div>
<div>under the present waiting list policy. </div>
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<div class="">And finally, could you please explain, John, how your reluctance to reclaim those<br class="">
valuable IPv4 assets from dissolved and now non-existant corporate entities comports<br class="">
with ARIN's basic mission to be good shepherds of ARIN's finite and limited resources?<br class="">
Because I'm not seeing it.<br class="">
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There’s no reluctance on ARIN’s part to researching any reports submitted and taking</div>
<div>appropriate action - including “reclaim(ing) those valuable IPv4 assets from dissolved </div>
<div>and now non-existant corporate entities” </div>
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<div>(At the present time, I only see reluctance on your part to reporting such entities to ARIN.)</div>
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<div class="">It is clear from your prior answer, quoted above, that it is your view is that<br class="">
reclaiming scarce assets from dead and defunct corporate entities so that ARIN can<br class="">
redistribute them to live and deserving organizations is, and properly should be<br class="">
"low priority" for ARIN staff, like as if you all had something better or more<br class="">
pressing to do.<br class="">
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<div class="">ARIN has not been directed by the community in any policy to embark on a general review </div>
<div class="">of all entities in the ARIN database looking for “dead and defunct corporate entities” - so if </div>
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<div class="">this is what you are suggesting, then you are correct - such a task would be very low priority</div>
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<div class="">If you are referring to researching those entities reported to ARIN and taking appropriate </div>
<div class="">action, then you would be incorrect – ARIN will pursue such reports as they are received. </div>
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<div class="">Please explain this to me then. What job is higher priority for you and for the<br class="">
ARIN staff than actively managing the scarce resources that have been entrusted<br class="">
to your care in a way so as to insure that worthy organizations can obtain those<br class="">
resources in preference to illegal squatters? Are you and the entire ARIN staff<br class="">
all just too busy making reservations for your upcoming all-expense-paid trips to<br class="">
Hollywood, California for the ARIN 50 meeting in October to allow you folks time<br class="">
to intelligently administer the number resources that have been assigned to ARIN<br class="">
by IANA?<br class="">
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I confess I'm confused. How can you justify *not* immediately reclaiming these<br class="">
resources John? How can you justify that decision? (And it *is* a decision,<br class="">
even if the decision is to do nothing.) How can you justify this decision to the<br class="">
community, to the deserving organizations on the Wait List, or even to yourself?<br class="">
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<div class="">“Immediately reclaiming”? ARIN doesn’t immediately do _anything_, because the duty</div>
<div class="">to which you refer includes protecting those who may hold rights to particular number </div>
<div class="">resources in the registry despite having very limited or even no contact with ARIN… </div>
<div class="">This means acting with appropriate diligence and care in the administration of the registry,</div>
<div class="">and carefully reviewing any reports received. I do understand that you consider the </div>
<div class="">particular example cited to be perfectly obviously such that it warrants immediate action,</div>
<div class="">but as seen on this mailing list in your prior missives, such claims can be mistaken. </div>
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<div class="">Submit a report of those “dead and defunct corporate entities” that you’d like reviewed</div>
<div class="">(or don’t, as you prefer) – the power lies within your hands to have these addressed. </div>
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