<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear ARIN-PPML,</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this email finds you in good health!</div><div><br></div><div>Please see my comments below; inline...</div><div>Thanks.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 5 août 2022 à 22:23, Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" target="_blank">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">In message <<a href="mailto:985AEE56-362C-47CB-A6A9-C1F296573D1B@arin.net" target="_blank">985AEE56-362C-47CB-A6A9-C1F29<wbr>6573D1B@arin.net</a>>, <br>
John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" target="_blank">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
>> ...<br>
>> [...]<br>
>> <br>
>> Can any kind soul enlighten me<br>
>> on this point?<br>
><br>
>If one engages with ARIN to obtain new resources (or make any similar substantial<br>
>change to their number resource holdings), ARIN will seek entry into the current RSA<br>
>if the present agreement is more than two versions back. We don't update the RSA <br>
>very often, but feel that some leeway in this regard is still operational sound and helps<br>
>reduce administrative overhead of working with ARIN. <br>
<br>
Thank you for this info John.<br>
<br>
My own feelings on this are quite entirely different. Although a case can be made<br>
that it is a laudable goal to reduce the "administrative overhead" that resource-<br>
holding entities must deal with, that consideration is, I believe, far outweighed<br>
by the value, to the community. to the membership, and yes, even to the staff, of<br>
having as many resource holders as possible bound by the exacting legal language<br>
of the latest and greatest RSA at all times. In fact, if by some miracle I were<br>
to be elected king of ARIN tomorrow, I would immediately decree that all resource<br>
holders that have ever entered into an RSA or LRSA contract with ARIN would be<br>
obliged to sign and submit a fresh and up-to-date new RSA or LRSA with ARIN annually,<br>
in conjunction with their annual fee payments.<br>
<br> </blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Hi Ronald, </div><div>Thanks for your email, brother!</div><div><br></div><div>...imho! it could be done; maybe by launching a digital signature service (externally or outsourced)</div><div><br></div><div>It could be of great help, in the need of identifying </div><div>dead/closed Orgs. Combining it with a direct ARIN</div><div>action, could offer an interesting mean to clear, the</div><div>INR's waiting list.</div><div>Action like:</div><div><br></div><div>| Associate corresponding allocated IPv4 blocks to </div><div>| AS0 in creating RPKI ROAs; for a given transitional </div><div>| time in order to stop any squatting activities. </div><div><br></div><div> </div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br><br>
That having been said, I understand that I might possibly be the one and only<br>
person in the community holding such a view. </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>No! don't think so, brother :'-(</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Even so, acquiring new number<br>
resources from ARIN staff is, for most resource holders, a somewhat rare but<br>
very significant event, and I believe that it is not and would not be an undue<br>
burden on any resource holder to sign and submit a new, fresh, and up-to-date<br>
RSA or LRSA as a condition of being granted any new number resources.<br>
<br>
That having been said, I understand that this also should be the subject of its<br>
own separate and formal policy proposal. I will endeavor to create such.<br><br></blockquote></div><div> </div><div> </div><div>...can i join you?</div><div>Let me know if you accept any help, brother :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Shalom,</div><div>--sb.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">>></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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