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<p>It is positive that many of these legacy holder returned some of
their unneeded IPv4 resources in the past. However I personally
believe it is something negative that there is still a fair amount
of these addresses unused and not even announced to the DFZ as if
they were waiting for some big Internet event to happen.</p>
<p>I really don't mind Legacy Holders to keep addresses that were
assigned to them ages ago as long they have a justification for
using them. In the other hand I am unable to believe any
organization in the entire world that is not a Telecommunications
or a Hosting Company is able to technically justify more and a
single /8.</p>
<p>Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/08/2022 15:06, John Curran wrote:<br>
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<div class="">On 6 Aug 2022, at 10:00 PM, Steven Ryerse <<a
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!important;" class="">If this community wants more
resources, the more obvious place to find them isn't some
relatively small block held by an organization or
individual that might be deceased, this community could
try and convince the DoD to release some portion of their
very large /8 assignments. That could be fertile ground.
Who knows how many IPv4 addresses they are actually using
and need. </span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
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it wouldn't surprise me if ARIN has quietly discussed this
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<div>Already happened (more than a decade ago): the US DoD, BBN,
Stanford, Interop, etc. all returned some of their unneeded IPv4
resources after being approached by ARIN – the address space was
returned, held for a period, and then issued by the policies in
place at that time. </div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>/John</div>
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<div>John Curran</div>
<div>President and CEO</div>
<div>American Registry for Internet Numbers</div>
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