<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 2:23 PM Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
To put it another way, if a former and now-defunct ARIN member falls in the forrest,<br>
and if there is no requirement to make any changes in the associated public-facing<br>
WHOIS record(s) after the dead company's membership and resources are reassigned to<br>
some successor entity, then how would anyone outside of ARIN even know that any actual<br>
reassignment had taken place?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ron,</div><div><br></div><div>Why would ARIN be the place to track changes of ownership of corporate entities?</div><div><br></div><div>If Elon Musk, for example, were to buy Twitter for $44B, would anyone at all expect </div><div>ARIN records to reflect the change in ownership? </div><div><br></div><div>Sure, you can look to SEC records to see the change in ownership; it's not a </div><div>secret; but it's not something that's on ARIN's head to track.</div><div><br></div><div>Similarly, when GlobalCrossing was bought by Level3, there was no </div><div>sudden requirement that every record within ARIN that used to say</div><div>"GlobalCrossing" now say "Level3" (I mean Qwest) (no wait, I mean</div><div>CenturyLink) (shoot, no, now I mean Lumen).</div><div><br></div><div>Nowhere does the NRPM say that ARINs records must change </div><div>when the name or owner of a company changes. It does require </div><div>that POCs be current and updated, and if the previous owner of </div><div>an entity is no longer the right POC, I would expect to see an updated </div><div>set of POCs for the entity after the change of ownership, but that </div><div>would be the extent to which ARIN's publicly visible records would </div><div>need to change.</div><div><br></div><div>(You can verify this for yourself by searching through ARIN whois </div><div>records for "global crossing", "Level 3", etc. to see that there has </div><div>been no requirement that records be immediately updated to show </div><div>that ownership and control has changed.)</div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div><div> <br></div></div></div>