<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Legacy Resources do not have fees to ARIN if not under LRSA, correct?<br>"<!--StartFragment-->compliance with policy<!--EndFragment--> " is a double edged sword.<br>You do have an "Inside The Beltway" use of the US English language :-)<br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"John Curran" <jcurran@arin.net><br><b>To: </b>"pmcnary" <pmcnary@cameron.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"arin-ppml" <arin-ppml@arin.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, July 25, 2022 11:46:31 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [arin-ppml] Deceased Companies?<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__">
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<div class="">That’s quite strange, since we’d already had estates probated with number resources at that time.</div>
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<div class="">Rights to number resources are not “freely held property” but rather similar to any other contractual right - </div>
<div class="">i.e. if you are running an operation that using IP address blocks and it passes to your heir, there’s not </div>
<div class="">reason that the IP address blocks could not pass as part of the assignment of the contract. </div>
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<div class="">If you were somehow suggesting that the rights to the address blocks in the registry could pass absent the </div>
<div class="">corresponding contractual obligations such as the payment of fees, compliance with policy, then indeed </div>
<div class="">I probably said “not possible.”</div>
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<div class="">On 25 Jul 2022, at 12:22 PM, Paul E McNary <<a href="mailto:pmcnary@cameron.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">pmcnary@cameron.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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It was you John Curran at WISPAMERICA when it was at Louisville I think.<br class="">
So Legacy Resources or any Resources remain with the Estate, That is excellent to know!<br class="">
At the time your argument was that Number Resources were not property that could be probated.<br class="">
Your view was that Number Resources were not property at all. They could be assigned but not possessed.<br class="">
You were very clear about it.<br class="">
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<div class="">On 25 Jul 2022, at 11:48 AM, Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p class="">Thank you very much for the clarification John.</p>
<p class="">It is good to know that there has been a policy in the past for that to happen and that BoT has understood that although ARIN could be successor of SRI/GSI/NSI-InterNIC it would not make sense in the current or even past context at that point in
time these resources to be retained by ARIN.</p>
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Your opinion on the matter is noted. I shall not opine on the view of the ARIN Board on </div>
<div class="">hypotheticals but will observe that ARIN has been responsible the overwhelming majority</div>
<div class="">of space returned the IANA IPv4 free pool. </div>
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<p class="">One point to highlight is that the communication mentions "blocks that have been voluntarily returned to ARIN" which could be understood as basically any legacy blocks had necessarily to be returned to ARIN and that IANA agrees on that or if a given
legacy resource holder wishes to return it directly to IANA would it be forbidden and directed by IANA to do to ARIN ?</p>
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Legacy resource holders in the ARIN registry must return their resources to ARIN. </div>
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