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<p>Thank you very much for the clarification John.</p>
<p>It is good to know that there has been a policy in the past for
that to happen and that BoT has understood that although ARIN
could be successor of SRI/GSI/NSI-InterNIC it would not make
sense in the current or even past context at that point in time
these resources to be retained by ARIN.<br>
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<p>One point to highlight is that the communication mentions "blocks
that have been voluntarily returned to ARIN" which could be
understood as basically any legacy blocks had necessarily to be
returned to ARIN and that IANA agrees on that or if a given legacy
resource holder wishes to return it directly to IANA would it be
forbidden and directed by IANA to do to ARIN ?</p>
<p>Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Em 25/07/2022 12:37, John Curran
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administratively and voluntarily dissolved
corporations come<br class="">
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Exactly… It turns out that dissolved isn’t necessarily a
permanent state, and in addition<br class="">
“dissolved” doesn’t mean that the rights necessarily and
automatically revert to the ARIN<br class="">
community – there may be one or more parties that has
potential claim to the resources,<br class="">
either via bankruptcy or provisions of the corporate
wind down.<br class="">
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Question here John: if the resources are legacy and they
were assigned before ARIN existence, these resources
should ideally be reverted back to IANA which in turn
should apply the Post Exhaustion Global Policy from May
6th 2021 and re-distribute these blocks to all RIRs ?<br
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Incorrect - ARIN is the successor registry for these assignments
made by SRI/GSI/NSI-InterNIC</div>
<div>and so they are returned to ARIN. </div>
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<div>To the extent determined by ARIN policy and ARIN’s Board of
Trustees, number resources that </div>
<div>are revoked, returned, or reclaimed by ARIN may be returned
to the IANA and then would qualify </div>
<div>as "Any IPv4 space returned to the IANA by any means” as
stated the referenced global policy. </div>
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<div>This has occurred in the past - <a
href="https://www.arin.net/vault/announcements/2012/20120611.html"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.arin.net/vault/announcements/2012/20120611.html</a></div>
<div>(see extract below)</div>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
<div>/John</div>
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<div>John Curran</div>
<div>President and CEO</div>
<div>American Registry for Internet Numbers</div>
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Given the recent ICANN Board adoption of Global Policy
Proposal - IPv4–2011, the ARIN Board of Trustees at its 6
June meeting directed ARIN staff to return to the IANA the
IPv4 address blocks that have been voluntarily returned to
ARIN in recent years. The total amount of space being
returned to the IANA amounts to roughly a /8 equivalent and
includes the large block of IPv4 addresses returned to ARIN
by Interop in 2010.</p>
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Below is the final list of address space that has been
returned to the IANA and this will be reflected in ARIN's
database within the next few hours.</p>
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