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<p>Hello</p>
<p>This doesn't look nice, either the way it is written or the way
it is understood by ARIN.<br>
Policy-related ideas and issues can mean a lot of things,
including facts that happen in other RIRs or general Internet
Governance area that can impact that was people discuss and agree
on policies here. This is fundamental to make up peoples mind when
putting their reasons for supporting or not a proposal.</p>
<p>I can understand ARIN possible concerns in order to avoid turning
this email list in a general discuss list that could end up
putting away truly interested people, but in the other hand it is
necessary to be flexible enough to not close abruptly any
discussions that are raised here and that is not necessarily
attached to a given proposal or draft and be able to separate the
different type of discussions which we know is not an easy thing<br>
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<p>The text as it is looks fine for me, but if ARIN still chooses to
not interpret in a different and more flexible way I would be
happy to support whatever necessary changes to make it in such
way.</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification around this topic<br>
Regards<br>
Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/07/2022 15:30, John Curran wrote:<br>
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<<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com"
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<p class="">Hi John</p>
<p class="">Thanks for the response back to community.<br
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But let take easier this thing about discussions on
ARIN PPML mailing list. I know some people may not
like of find it strange discussions that are not
necessarily and exactly around a given proposal but it
is not necessary to be like that.<br class="">
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<p class="">Basically anything that has to do with ARIN
PPML being a proposal or not it is fair to be
discussed here, including how the CEO of ARIN
interacts with its community and clarify all necessary
information. That´s undoubtedly is of high importance
and other topics that may affect in some way the
discussions here and how community makes up their
minds to support or not a proposal. …</p>
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Fernando -
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<div class="">That’s not quite correct, as the scope of the
arin-ppml mailing list is quite clear, and postings must be
more than simply tangentially related to ARIN policy. </div>
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<div class="">As provided per <<a
href="https://www.arin.net/participate/community/mailing_lists/#public-policy-mailing-list"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.arin.net/participate/community/mailing_lists/#public-policy-mailing-list</a>>
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Open to the general public. Provides a forum to raise
and discuss policy-related ideas and issues surrounding
existing and proposed ARIN policies. The PPML list is an
intrinsic part of <a
href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/"
style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 122,
153);" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ARIN’s Policy
Development Process</a>, which details how proposed
policies are handled.</p>
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Discussion on PPML can cover a variety of policy related
topics, and ARIN encourages free discussion. ARIN
announcements to the PPML about policy proposals or
draft policies include the proposal number or draft
policy number in the subject field. Please retain the
policy number in the subject line when you make comments
about specific <a
href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/"
style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 122,
153);" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">proposals or
draft policies</a>. Your post or reply should open
with a statement of support or nonsupport for the topic
to allow others to follow discussions of interest more
easily and make your position clear.</div>
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If you want a more open forum for discussion of overall issues
related to ARIN (i.e. more than just topics that are “policy
related ideas and issues”), I would suggest that you support
that position in the open consultation I referenced
previously.</div>
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<div class="">Thanks!</div>
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<div class="">/John</div>
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<div class="">John Curran</div>
<div class="">President and CEO</div>
<div class="">American Registry for Internet Numbers</div>
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