Dear ARIN-PPML,<br><br>Le lundi 27 juin 2022, John Sweeting <<a href="mailto:jsweeting@arin.net">jsweeting@arin.net</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Hello PPML,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi John,</div><div>Thanks for your well appreciated email, brother.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">ARIN would like to provide a clarification on both the Officer Attestation which is what is highlighted in DP ARIN-2022-3 and the Officer Acknowledgement which is not included in that Draft Policy.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Noted with thanks :-)</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Officer Attestation, as referenced in ARIN Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM) 8.5.5 Block Size is specifically asking for an officer of the organization to attest to the documented justification that states at
least 50% of the requested block size will be used within the next 24 months. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It seems as a tool which could reduce:</div><div><br></div><div>1| disagreements with resource holders, not </div><div>recognising the validity of their current documented</div><div> justification?</div><div>2| voluntary INR's reservations?</div><div>3| anything else?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>John, please, what could be the practical usecases </div><div>of this tool?</div><div><br></div><div>In other words: in what is it actually useful to ARIN?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">There is no notarization required and it serves to state and confirm that yes, that is our plan for the next 24 months and the information and documentation provided is accurate.
This is only asked for in conjunction with a specified transfer recipient.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div>Sure! no need...given that ARIN appears to have </div><div>sufficient flexibility [1] to deal with non compliance;</div><div> regarding percentage of INRs utilization...</div><div><br></div><div><quote></div><div>"If your organization acquired assets (such as </div><div>customers and equipment) from another </div><div>organization via an acquisition or merger, and those</div><div> assets are using IP addresses and/or ASNs that </div><div>are directly registered through ARIN, you may </div><div>request a transfer of those resources. ARIN will </div><div>proceed with processing transfer requests even if </div><div>the number resources of the combined </div><div>organizations exceed what can be justified under </div><div>current ARIN policy as defined in NRPM Section </div><div>8.5. In that event, *ARIN will work with the resource</div><div>holder(s)* to *transfer the extra number resources* </div><div>to other organization(s) or *accept a voluntary </div><div>return* of the *extra number resources* to ARIN."</div><div></quote></div><div>[1]: <a href="https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/transfers/#:~:text=If%20your%20organization%20acquired,extra%20number%20resources%20to%20ARIN">https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/transfers/#:~:text=If%20your%20organization%20acquired,extra%20number%20resources%20to%20ARIN</a>.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>...i've quoted something about M&A, but it applies </div><div>to other types of INR transfers in similar manners.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On the other hand, Officer Acknowledgement, which is not contained in the NRPM, is an operational requirement for Source Organizations (Current Registrant) found at:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><a href="https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/transfers/" title="https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/transfers/" target="_blank"><span style="color:black">https://www.arin.net/<wbr>resources/registry/transfers/</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">This requirement states that “The source organization must provide a signed and notarized <a href="https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/office_acknowledgement.pdf" title="https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/office_acknowledgement.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="color:black">Officer
Acknowledgement Letter</span></a>. The purposes of this requirement are:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-to state that there are no known disputes from another party to claim rights to these Internet number resources<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-to ensure that a duly authorized officer has the authority to legally bind the source registrant<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-to document the authorization to transfer said resources<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-to provide indemnification to ARIN<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-to verify that the data in the transfer request ticket is accurate<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-to agree to all terms and release the rights to the Internet number resources contained in the specified transfer ticket.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">As you can see there is really no comparison to the two separate and distinct documents that serve two very different purposes.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Many thanks for these insightful clarifications :-) </div><div>...once more.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">If there is further information required please reply and we will get that out to the list.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Please see above, brother!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Shalom,</div><div>--sb.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">John S.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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