Dear ARIN-PPML,<div><br></div><div>Please find my comments below, inline...</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.<br><br>Le samedi 25 juin 2022, Tom Fantacone <<a href="mailto:tom@iptrading.com" target="_blank">tom@iptrading.com</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u><div><div style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Owen,<br></div><div><br></div><div>This is actually the link for the sample Officer Attestation:<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi Tom,</div><div>Thanks for adding more clarifications, brother :-) </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/OfficerAttestation_watermark.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/about/cor<wbr>porate/agreements/OfficerAttes<wbr>tation_watermark.pdf</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>The link you provided was for the "Officer Acknowledgement". </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Right, thanks!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br></div><div>The Officer Acknowledgement is a notarized form </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Here, you seem to have kickly generalised an </div><div>optional act :-/ </div><div><br></div><div>It's not what the documented [1] procedure states:</div><div><br></div><div><quote1></div><div><div>"*No notarization is necessary*. Note that the form </div><div>will be provided to you and is not available via our </div><div>website."</div></div><div></quote1></div><div>__</div><div>[1]: <a href="https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/attestation/#:~:text=No%20notarization%20is%20necessary,not%20available%20via%20our%20website" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/abou<wbr>t/corporate/agreements/attesta<wbr>tion/#:~:text=No%20notarizatio<wbr>n%20is%20necessary,not%<wbr>20available%20via%20our%<wbr>20website</a>.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br></div><div>signed by the Seller of the resources verifying, among other things, that the signer is authorized on behalf of the source entity to make the resource transfer. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div>...it would be really useful to render this attestation</div><div> mandatory, imho; as it appears to be optional [1].<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>That helps to avoid a situation where an unauthorized employee with ARIN online access could make a resource transfer without permission.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for mentioning this valuable detail.</div><div><br></div><div>FWIW, the tool is available; but it's still [2] optional :'-(</div><div> </div><div><paste2></div><div>"Officer Acknowledgment </div><div><br></div><div>The Officer Acknowledgment form , *when signed* </div><div>*and notarized*, *is required to be provided* to </div><div>ARIN *by a source organization* (current registrant)</div><div> for a Transfer to Specified Recipients in the ARIN </div><div>Region (8.3) or an Inter-RIR Transfer (8.4). An </div><div>officer of the source organization needs to sign this</div><div> form, have it notarized, and provide it to ARIN."</div><div></paste2></div><div>__</div><div>[2]: <a href="https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/#:~:text=Officer%20Acknowledgment,notarized%2C%20and%20provide%20it%20to%20ARIN" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/abou<wbr>t/corporate/agreements/#:~:<wbr>text=Officer%20Acknowledgment,<wbr>notarized%2C%20and%20provide%<wbr>20it%20to%20ARIN</a>.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Would you like it to become mandatory?</div><div><br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The Officer Attestation is a simpler form signed by the Buyer attesting to the accuracy of the justification data and doesn't require notarization. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Tom, could you, please, explain why?</div><div><br></div><div>...imho! the new resource holder *must* be an org </div><div>which is willing to demonstrate its *need* of INRs.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>That's the one the draft policy seeks to eliminate.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>This is a new information, at least for me, and i </div><div>thank you for this useful clarification, brother.</div><div><br></div><div>...i see it, at least, become optionally validated.</div><div>As you explained; the interest in validating the </div><div>Officer Acknowledgement document, is to add </div><div>more confidence to the process, for the new </div><div>resource holder.</div><div>Why not also validate Officer Acknowledgement </div><div>documents?</div><div>If the new resource holder's right representative </div><div>could sign a notarized document, then the new </div><div>destination of those INRs, being transfered, might </div><div>be more safe, and the numbering community </div><div>would celebrate that happy end...imho :-/</div><div><br></div><div>Rather than supporting this attempt to prevent the </div><div>use of Officer Attestation documents, i recommend</div><div> that its validation becomes the norm & its non </div><div>validation an exception. This would add more </div><div>protection against INRs reservation, imho.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks to let me know if i misunderstood something...</div><div><br></div><div>This is where, i have to call John again...or anyone, </div><div>with clue, from ARIN's Staff...for help :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Shalom,</div><div>--sb.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Tom Fantacone<br></div><div><br></div><div style="border-top:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);height:0px;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;line-height:0px"><br></div><div><div><br></div><div>---- On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 00:41:46 -0400 <b>Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>></b> wrote ---<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px"><div><div><blockquote><div><div><br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1.0px rgb(204,204,204) solid;padding-left:1.0ex"><br> ><br> > [...]<br> ><br> <br></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div>
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