<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Greetings,<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"NeueHaasGroteskText Std",sans-serif"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"NeueHaasGroteskText Std",sans-serif">Not meaning to be a wet blanket but which ARIN policy is this discussion in relation to? I seem to recall that the PPML List is to "p</span>rovide a forum to raise and discuss policy-related ideas and issues surrounding existing and proposed ARIN policies."<br><br>Perhaps the community would be better served if the current conversation to a forum more focused on the topic being discussed?</p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"NeueHaasGroteskText Std",sans-serif"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"NeueHaasGroteskText Std",sans-serif">Best Regards,</span><br></p>
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Yes, there’s no secret that I am a consultant to Cloud Innovation and<br>
Larus, Ltd.</blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">True story.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> However, I have no involvement or affiliation with NRS and<br>
no desire to have same.</blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Internet archives never forget.</div><div dir="auto"></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.afrinic.net_pipermail_rpd_2021_013810.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=PNlZCOTcrBXvix6v31kntg680rC2tshHDXM0RcJv5bE&m=9sw9nyzLNUg6DZYGzlnK8WkqhJdEJxryDRavaNpfwNMSxaa79ZFZWW8vRTN-vlYl&s=5PsHZ_THYKyYMRd4pt-OSXUfkvjCuV2Pd1MZ9CSLcuI&e=" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/013810.html</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">On that thread, your response was in full defence of NRS as you really went on to explaib what they are all about as though you had insider knowledge of the organization.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers,</div><div dir="auto">Noah</div><div dir="auto"></div></div>
</div></blockquote></div><br><div>Nope… It was a statement against certain misinformation being promulgated by you at the time.</div><div><br></div><div>It was based on the publicly available record at the time and not any internal knowledge or affiliation with NRS.</div><div><br></div><div>I don’t agree with lots of things Larus is doing/has done, but I’m supporting them in their law suits because I believe the board and staff are just plain wrong in their effort to revoke their membership based on a plain text reading of the provisions cited by the board and staff in their various affidavits and correspondence.</div><div><br></div><div>Facts are facts. When I see misinformation and/or disinformation, I will tend to speak out against it, even when I don’t agree with or support the party being attacked.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>These would have to be alternative facts from your track record on the AFRINIC lists :-) </div><div><br></div><div>Omo <br></div></div></div>
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