<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Can someone clarify for me the meaningful difference between:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">To originate announcement of IP Number Resources via an accepted protocol (such as Border Gateway Protocol) from an AS Number different than that of its upstream provider;</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">and</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">To use an AS Number to interconnect with other Autonomous Systems.</div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">—</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">It seems to me that anything defined by the first sentence would be encompassed in the second.</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Further, while I admit my imagination may be limited here, I am unable to imagine a useful implementation of the second sentence that would not also conform to the first and would require a unique non-private ASN.</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">While I can see useful instances for receive-only (non-originating) BGP sessions, such as route servers, etc., I’m hard pressed to see why they would need a unique public ASN. Even if they do, a useful route server is, by definition, multi-homed.</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Not necessarily opposed to the policy as written, but think that it’s a lot of extra words with little actual value in terms of clarity and perhaps even muddying the waters a bit.</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Owen</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 22, 2022, at 09:04, ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" class="">info@arin.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On 17 March 2022, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced the following Draft Policy to Recommended Draft Policy status: </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">* ARIN-2021-3: Private AS Number and Unique Routing Policy Clarifications</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The text of the Recommended Draft Policy is below, and may also be found at: </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_3/" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_3/</a></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">You are encouraged to discuss all Recommended Draft Policies on PPML prior to their presentation at the next ARIN Public Policy Consultation (PPC). PPML and PPC discussions are invaluable to the AC when determining community consensus. </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The PDP can be found at:</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/</a></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/</a></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Regards, </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Sean Hopkins </div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Senior Policy Analyst </div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">American Registry for Internet Numbers </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2021-3: Private AS Number and Unique Routing Policy Clarifications</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">AC Assessment of Conformance with the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/#4-principles-of-internet-number-resource-policy" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">Principles of Internet Number Resource Policy</a>:</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2021-3 conforms to the principles of the ARIN Policy Development Process as follows:</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">- By providing greater clarity concerning when a requesting organization qualifies for AS Numbers, it promotes fair and impartial number resource administration;</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">- It is technically sounds because it clarifies the technical requirements for obtaining AS Numbers (i.e., the need to interconnect with other organizations’ Autonomous Systems, what constitutes a “unique routing policy”, and the need to have a network plan); and</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">- Community support has been demonstrated throughout the process associated with its development.</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Problem Statement:</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">At ARIN 47, staff identified three points of potential confusion with current text in NRPM Section 5: AS Numbers.</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“Sites that do not require a unique AS Number should use one or more of the AS Numbers reserved for private use.” Some customers are not aware that their need for unique AS Numbers depends upon their need (or lack thereof) to interconnect with other organizations’ Autonomous Systems.</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“In order to be assigned an AS Number, each requesting organization must provide ARIN with verification that it has one of the following…A unique routing policy (its policy differs from its border gateway peers)…A multihomed site.” Few customers qualify for AS Numbers under the “unique routing policy” requirement, because they don’t understand what “unique routing policy” actually means in practice.</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“AS Numbers are issued based on current need. An organization should request an AS Number only when it is already multihomed or will immediately become multihomed.” All ARIN delegations are based on current needs, and some customers aren’t aware they need network plans when they request AS Numbers. Additionally, clarification that some organizations may have a unique need for an AS Number outside of utilizing a unique routing policy, such as one implemented using, for example, a protocol such as Border Gateway Protocol (BGP).</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Policy statement:</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">In Section 5 -</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Replace</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“Sites that do not require a unique AS Number should use one or more of the AS Numbers reserved for private use.”</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">with</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“If a unique AS Number is not required for a given network design, one or more of the AS Numbers reserved for private use should be utilized.”</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Replace</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“In order to be assigned an AS Number, each requesting organization must provide ARIN with verification that it has one of the following</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">A unique routing policy (its policy differs from its border gateway peers) 2. A multihomed site”</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">with</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“In order to be assigned an AS Number, each requesting organization must provide ARIN with verification that it requires a unique routing policy, such as a plan:</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">To originate announcement of IP Number Resources via an accepted protocol (such as Border Gateway Protocol) from an AS Number different than that of its upstream provider;</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">To multihome a site with one or more Autonomous Systems; or</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">To use an AS Number to interconnect with other Autonomous Systems.”</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Replace</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“AS Numbers are issued based on current need. An organization should request an AS Number only when it is already multihomed or will immediately become multihomed.”</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">with</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“AS Numbers are issued based on current need, as set out in this section 5.”</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Timetable for implementation: Immediate</div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; 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