<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>Bill,<br></div><div><br></div><div class="align-left" style="text-align: left;">If I run a network and qualify for an /18 right now, can I got to ARIN and lease one? I must either buy one on the transfer market or lease one from a (non-ARIN) 3rd party.<br></div><div class="align-left" style="text-align: left;"><br></div><div class="align-left" style="text-align: left;">Your analogy makes some sense regarding previously allocated IPv4 space, but we are in exhaust. This policy would not have made sense when there was a free pool, but it excludes waiting list addresses and so covers that base.<br></div><div class="align-left" style="text-align: left;"><br>Regards,</div><div class="align-left" style="text-align: left;"><br></div><div class="align-left" style="text-align: left;">Tom Fantacone<br></div><div><br></div><div class="zmail_extra_hr" style="border-top: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; line-height: 0px;"><br></div><div class="zmail_extra" data-zbluepencil-ignore="true"><div><br></div><div id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn1">---- On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 12:31:47 -0500 <b>William Herrin <bill@herrin.us></b> wrote ----<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px;"><div>On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 9:14 AM Tom Fantacone <<a href="mailto:tom@iptrading.com" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238);">tom@iptrading.com</a>> wrote: <br>> Bill, regarding your point "B", by providing IPv4 leasing, these 3rd parties are certainly performing a function that ARIN does not. <br> <br>Oh really? ARIN doesn't charge an annual fee to retain the IP address <br>assignment they've made? And they don't reclaim the addresses for use <br>by someone else should you fail to pay? Your "leasing" differs from <br>ARIN's only in that you charge much more money and perform <br>questionable diligence with respect to enforcing number policy. <br> <br>Regards, <br>Bill Herrin <br> <br> <br>-- <br>William Herrin <br><a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238);">bill@herrin.us</a> <br><a href="https://bill.herrin.us/" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238);">https://bill.herrin.us/</a> <br></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div><br></body></html>