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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/03/2022 14:56, Tom Fantacone
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<div>Bill,<br>
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<div>We can quibble about semantics, but let's go with your
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<div style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" class="align-left">If I run a
network and qualify for an /18 right now, can I go to ARIN and
lease one? I must either <i>pay someone to release their
addresses to ARIN to lease to me</i> or lease one from a
(non-ARIN) 3rd party.<br>
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And that should always be the expected, release them to ARIN which
should be the only actor taking care of it.<br>
I really fail to understand how can one consider legit that a 3rd
party could be doing this job otherwise.<br>
<p>If everybody sticks that what is expected, things work better, is
much better to trust ARIN to do this plus in the end doing in such
way doesn't least space for speculation, price rises and community
have the assurance that the one who is intermediating it is
someone really neutral and with no other interests to the business
other than make sure the policies are being followed.</p>
<p>Fernando<br>
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<div style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" class="align-left">And the amount
I must pay (commonly referred to as the Purchase Price in most
IPv4 transfer contracts, whether I'm technically "buying" it
or not), is significantly more than either typical lease rates
or ARIN's annual fees. My point is that 3rd party lessors do
provide a service that ARIN does not.<br>
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<div style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" class="align-left">Regards,<br>
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<div id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn1">---- On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 12:42:52 -0500
<b>William Herrin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bill@herrin.us"><bill@herrin.us></a></b> wrote ----<br>
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<div>On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 9:40 AM Tom Fantacone <<a
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> If I run a network and qualify for an /18 right now,
can I got to ARIN and lease one? I must either buy one on
the transfer market <br>
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Tom, <br>
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I think you misunderstand the transfer market. You don't
buy addresses <br>
on the transfer market. You lease addresses from ARIN and
then pay <br>
someone on the transfer market to release their addresses
to ARIN for <br>
lease to you. <br>
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Regards, <br>
Bill Herrin <br>
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William Herrin <br>
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