<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>Hi Bill,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your reasoning. <br></div><div><br></div><div>For point A I would say the cart has left the barn and these once public resources are now effectively private resources, with different rules logically applying.<br></div><div>Is rent always and everywhere a bad thing? We can't ignore the fact that these resources are valuable and that drives behaviors like leasing and efficient use.<br></div><div><br></div><div>For point B, this policy provides the same opportunities that ARIN has always provided its ISP customers, to temporarily sub-assign networks to its clients.<br></div><div>The only difference is these clients would not be part of the registrant's own operational network. And if all the lessors do is precisely and only what ARIN does, I fail to see the market opportunity for those who would wish to purchase addresses in order to lease them out.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Remember this is pretty much policy today, except for the circuit requirement, which:<br></div><div><br></div><div>A) Can be easily worked-around through a traffic-free virtual connection<br></div><div><br></div><div>B) Is more restrictive than RIPE policy has been for many years. Can you point to the problems that have ensued that should worry us?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Mike<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="zmail_extra_hr" style="border-top: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; line-height: 0px;"><br></div><div class="zmail_extra" data-zbluepencil-ignore="true"><div><br></div><div id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn1">---- On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 17:46:36 -0500 <b>William Herrin <bill@herrin.us></b> wrote ----<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px;"><div>On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 8:24 PM ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238);">info@arin.net</a>> wrote: <br>> * ARIN-2021-6: Permit IPv4 Leased Addresses for Purposes of Determining Utilization for Future Allocations <br> <br>I continue to OPPOSE this proposal because: <br> <br>A) It asks ARIN to facilitate blatant and unapologetic rent-seeking <br>behavior with changes to public policy. <br> <br>B) It proposes that third parties perform precisely and only the <br>functions that ARIN itself performs without any credible compliance <br>mechanism to assure the third party performs to ARIN's standards or in <br>accordance with the community's established number policy. <br> <br>Regards, <br>Bill Herrin <br> <br> <br>-- <br>William Herrin <br><a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238);">bill@herrin.us</a> <br><a href="https://bill.herrin.us/" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238);">https://bill.herrin.us/</a> <br>_______________________________________________ <br>ARIN-PPML <br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to <br>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238);">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>). <br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: <br><a href="https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238);">https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a> <br>Please contact <a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238);">info@arin.net</a> if you experience any issues. <br></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div><br></body></html>