<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style='font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;'>IHi Owen,<br><br>I haven't yet formulated a proposal. I have formulated a goal which is to state objective public qualifications as a threshold for nomination with the removal of the NomCom's ability to restrict those who meet the threshold.<br><br><br>As a guide I suggest we refer to the RIPE model which does allow self-nomination with the support of five members.<br><br><br>I agree that there was no requirement to receive this letter which makes it all the more mysterious that it was generated and sent in his current form.<br><br><br>Regards,<br><br>Mike<br><br><br>Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10e.<br><br><div id="message"></div><br id="br3"><br id="br3"><br id="br3"><div id="signature"></div><div id="content"><br> ---- On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 16:36:36 -0400 <b> owen@delong.com </b> wrote ----<br><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 6px; margin-left: 5px;"><meta><div style="" class="">Mike,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will disagree. The proposal is to require an explanation. The letter you got was not an explanation, it was a clear exercise of the nominating committees option not to explain themselves if they choose not to.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If they were required to provide an explanation to candidates, I do not believe this letter would meet that requirement. If you have any ideas on wording to create a more effective</div><div class="">requirement that clarifies that fact, I would love to know what you might propose.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote class=""><div class="">On Nov 4, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Mike Burns <<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com" class="" target="_blank">mike@iptrading.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="x_1700350875Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta class=""><div class=""><div style="font-size : 10pt; font-family : Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; " class="">Hi Martin, <br class=""><br class="">Oh I didn't expect much, that's why I didn't ask for this letter in the beginning. When it arrived it just confirmed my suspicions and I posted it to allow others to understand that merely requiring this letter will do nothing to fix the situation.<br class=""><br class="">It's only because I want Arin to continue doing a good job that I am pressing this issue.<div id="x_1700350875message" class=""></div><br id="x_1700350875br3" class="">Regards,<div class="">Mike<br id="x_1700350875br3" class=""><br id="x_1700350875br3" class=""><div id="x_1700350875signature" class=""></div><div id="x_1700350875content" class=""><br class=""> ---- On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 13:36:06 -0400 <b class=""> <a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" class="" target="_blank">hannigan@gmail.com</a> </b> wrote ----<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote style="border-left : 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left : 6px; margin-left : 5px; " class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Mike,</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I’m not sure I would’ve expected anything different. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">BTW: Lets not forget that ARIN does a good job overall. BoT. AC. NRO NC. And the staff. Its a team effort. And we are part of the team. Vote!</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Warm regards,</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">-M<</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="x_-2114302469gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="x_-2114302469gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 11:53 Patrick W. Gilmore <<a href="mailto:patrick@ianai.net" target="_blank" class="">patrick@ianai.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="x_-2114302469gmail_quote" style="margin : 0 0 0; border-left : 1px #ccc solid; padding-left : 1ex; "><div class=""><div class="">Sounds to me like a lawyer wrote it, not a member of the NomCom.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Which implies the NomCom was not allowed to answer.</div></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote class=""><div class="">On Nov 4, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">This is very disappointing. Under the process to date, it was the NomCom's prerogative not to provide an explanation. But this non-explanation makes a mockery of the entire concept of an explanation. It literally says nothing about why the candidate was not selected. It simply restates the NomCom's charter and their decision.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If this is the kind of obfuscatory behavior we're going to get out of requiring explanations under the current process, then that process needs to be changed more radically than I thought.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Scott</div></div><br class=""><div class="x_-2114302469gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="x_-2114302469gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 9:37 AM Mike Burns <<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com" target="_blank" class="">mike@iptrading.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="x_-2114302469gmail_quote" style="margin : 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left : 1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left : 1ex; "><u class=""></u><div class=""><div style="font-size : 10pt; font-family : Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; " class="">Hello list,<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I received the explanation for my exclusion from this year's AC slate. <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">For those who believe this explanation provides any transparency, I post it in its totality below to disabuse them of that notion.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Required explanations don't move the needle at all in attempting to improve the nominations process. <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Perhaps all it would take would be a simple change to the charging language to instruct the nomcom not to exclude candidates who are qualified and include those minimum qualifications?<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Mike<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Dear Mr. Burns,<br class=""><br class="">The ARIN Nomination Committee (NomCom) is in receipt of your request for an explanatory statement on the reasons why you were not included on the Advisory Council candidate slate for the 2021 ARIN Elections. The ARIN NomCom reviewed all duly submitted and timely nominations and the materials provided by the nominees. The NomCom’s robust deliberation process was informed by the diversity of perspectives and experience among NomCom Members and strong adherence to the mandate and terms of reference. <br class=""><br class="">Various factors were considered including, but not limited to, experience, involvement in the ARIN community, and responses to the nominee questionnaires. After careful and thoughtful review of each nominee, it was decided to not put your Advisory Council nomination forward onto the initial slate of candidates this year. <br class=""><br class="">Catherine Middleton<br class="">Chair, ARIN Nomination Committee 2021<div id="x_-2114302469m_-2697033287615671713gmail-m_4197998592467283592message" class=""></div><br id="x_-2114302469m_-2697033287615671713gmail-m_4197998592467283592br3" class=""><br id="x_-2114302469m_-2697033287615671713gmail-m_4197998592467283592br3" class=""><br id="x_-2114302469m_-2697033287615671713gmail-m_4197998592467283592br3" class=""><div id="x_-2114302469m_-2697033287615671713gmail-m_4197998592467283592signature" class=""></div><div id="x_-2114302469m_-2697033287615671713gmail-m_4197998592467283592content" class=""></div></div><br class=""></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">
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