<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I support this amendment.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 20, 2021, at 12:45 , David Farmer via ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" class="">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I support this proposal as currently written. <br class=""><br class="">However, regarding Kevin Blumberg's comment at the ARIN 48 discussion of this policy earlier today; How about adding a paragraph like the following to section 8.1, Principles;<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px" class="">When number resources of multiple types, IPv4, IPv6, and/or ASNs, are transferred, each resource type is considered separately and independently, both for any conditions on their transferability and the application of any restrictions following a transfer.</blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Something like this added to Section 8.1, Principles, along with the already proposed changes should eliminate any possibility of confusion in this regard.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 7:52 AM ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank" class="">info@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On 19 August 2021, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-299: Clarifications to Sections 8.3, 8.4 and 8.5.6" as a Draft Policy.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Draft Policy ARIN-2021-4 is below and can be found at:</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_4/" target="_blank" class="">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_4/</a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration</p><p class="MsoNormal">* Technically Sound</p><p class="MsoNormal">* Supported by the Community</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The PDP can be found at:</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/" target="_blank" class="">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/</a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: </p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/" target="_blank" class="">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/</a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Sean Hopkins</p><p class="MsoNormal">Senior Policy Analyst</p><p class="MsoNormal">American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal">Draft Policy ARIN-2021-4: Clarifications to Sections 8.3, 8.4 and 8.5.6 </p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal">Problem Statement:</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The current language in Sections 8.3 and 8.4 is not clear regarding ASN-only transactions as well as the term “number resources”. The current language in Section 8.5.7 is not clear with regard to additional IPv4 space.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Policy statement:</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">In Section 8.3:</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Replace</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 numbers resources and ASNs may be transferred according to the following conditions.”</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">with</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 address and/or ASN resources may be transferred according to the following conditions.”</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Replace</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“The source entity must be the current registered holder of the IPv4 address resources, and not be involved in any dispute as to the status of those resources.”</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">with</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“The source entity must be the current registered holder of the IPv4 address and/or ASN resources, and not be involved in any dispute as to the status of those resources.”</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">In Section 8.4:</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Replace</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“Inter-regional transfers of IPv4 number resources and ASNs may take place only via RIRs who agree to the transfer and share reciprocal, compatible needs-based policies.”</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">with</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“Inter-regional transfers of IPv4 addresses and/or ASN resources may take place only via RIRs who agree to the transfer and share reciprocal, compatible needs-based policies.”</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Replace</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“The source entity must be the current rights holder of the IPv4 address resources recognized by the RIR responsible for the resources, and not be involved in any dispute as to the status of those resources.”</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">with</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“The source entity must be the current rights holder of the IPv4 address and/or ASN resources recognized by the RIR responsible for the resources, and not be involved in any dispute as to the status of those resources.”</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">In Section 8.5.6:</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Replace</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“Organizations with direct assignments or allocations from ARIN must have efficiently utilized at least 50% of their cumulative IPv4 address blocks in order to receive additional space. This includes all space reassigned to their customers.”</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">with</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“Organizations with direct assignments or allocations from ARIN must have efficiently utilized at least 50% of their cumulative IPv4 address blocks in order to receive additional IPv4 space. This includes all IPv4 space reassigned to their customers.”</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Comments:</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">These changes were originally included in ARIN-edit-2021-1. Staff and Legal review of ARIN-edit-2021-1 on June 14, 2021 indicated that some changes were not editorial in nature. The editorial changes went forward in ARIN-edit-2021-1 and the non-editorial changes are included here.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Timetable for implementation: Immediate</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p></div></div>
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