<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>A slight correction. I guess I didn't realize that you only need to be nominated by a member in good standing, not actually a member. Who knew? With that correction, I would still argue that the regulated should be self governed, antitrust and all.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Warm regards,</div><div><br></div><div>-M<<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 9:26 PM Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com">hannigan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>It's probably more than process reform that is needed IMHO. I didn't realize this changed, but you don't need to be a member in good standing to run for the board. I'm pretty certain it used to be a requirement. Not sure when that changed. It appears at least two of three possibly aren't. I'd argue this is another black eye for the process.</div><div><br></div><div>Warm regards,</div><div><br></div><div>-M<</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 9:19 PM Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" target="_blank">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">In light of the public and private responses I’ve gotten to this question, it seems that the obvious explanations are considered far more credible than any innocent ones (of which none have been forthcoming this far).<div><br></div><div>I would encourage everyone to support these petitions, to solicit candidates’ opinions on the matter of candidate selection, and then vote for candidates willing to publicly advocate for candidate selection reform at ARIN. Whether or not the process is currently undergoing capture, it certainly appears to lack the transparency needed to avoid it. </div><div><br><div dir="ltr"><div>Scott</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 9, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">There were apparently at least 5 candidates. There are 2 open board seats.<div><br></div><div>The nom-com approved only 3 candidates, hence my complaint.</div><div><br></div><div>There are 7 open advisory council seats. I did not count the nomination list size, but I assure you it was well short of 14.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 9, 2021, at 17:30 , Steven Ryerse <<a href="mailto:SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com" target="_blank">SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">If there are enough candidates there ought to be at least 2 for each seat and more than 2 is also good too. <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(36,75,151)"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(36,75,151)">Steven Ryerse</span></b><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(36,75,151)"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(59,56,56)">President<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(36,75,151)"><a href="mailto:sryerse@eclipse-networks.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">sryerse@eclipse-networks.com</span></a></span></u><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)">|</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(36,75,151)"><span> </span><b>C</b>:<span> </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)">770.656.1460<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sa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u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">The NomCom is comprised of four insiders, two volunteers, and operates in the dark.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Not saying this is the case, but very few likeminded individuals on the AC/Board can effectively capture these via NomCom filtering.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">A dangerous thing for Internet governance in the context of Afrinic. I don't want the governments of the world taking over from the amateurs.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">But if we continue to act amateurish...<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Mike<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in;margin-top:7.5pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div id="gmail-m_5082134718385460461gmail-m_-6118051203740986162Zm-_Id_-Sgn1"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">---- On Sat, 09 Oct 2021 11:58:00 -0400<span> </span><b>Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>></b><span> </span>wrote ----<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><blockquote><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Has ARIN disclosed anything about why the NomCom chose to exclude two obviously-qualified candidates from the ballot when they didn’t yet have 2 candidates per open seat, and the 3 candidates they did include are all less well-known to the community than both the ones they excluded?<br><br>I can hypothesize some possible reasons, but none of them would reflect well on the NomCom, so I am reluctant to do so without learning their stated reason(s).<span> </span><br><br>Scott<br><br>> On Oct 9, 2021, at 7:39 AM, Bill Woodcock <<a href="mailto:woody@pch.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">woody@pch.net</a>> wrote:<br>><span> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><br>><span> </span><br>>> On Oct 9, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">hannigan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> There's a petition for two people to be added to the Trustee ballot after being rejected by the nom com.<br>><span> </span><br>> Yes! Go vote on the petitions, so you’ll have more than three choices to fill the two open board seats, when the election comes. Give yourself more options.<br>><span> </span><br>> -Bill<br>><span> </span><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> ARIN-PPML<br>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br>><span> </span><a href="https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml" st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