<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">To the beset of my knowledge, membership has never been a criterion for eligibility to run. It is a requirement to be able to nominate and to vote.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don’t think this is a change.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What has changed is the behavior of (and possibly the mandate and guidance given to) the nominating committee.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This new behavior is the kind of manipulation of process I expect to see in AFRINIC. It comes as a surprise in the ARIN region.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m not sure what <a href="mailto:scott@solarnetone.org" class="">scott@solarnetone.org</a> thinks is going on and he doesn’t elaborate beyond a rather terse claim that some sort</div><div class="">of effort towards capture is occurring. Care to elaborate, Scott?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 9, 2021, at 18:26 , Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" class="">hannigan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It's probably more than process reform that is needed IMHO. I didn't realize this changed, but you don't need to be a member in good standing to run for the board. I'm pretty certain it used to be a requirement. Not sure when that changed. It appears at least two of three possibly aren't. I'd argue this is another black eye for the process.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Warm regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-M<</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 9:19 PM Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" class="">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">In light of the public and private responses I’ve gotten to this question, it seems that the obvious explanations are considered far more credible than any innocent ones (of which none have been forthcoming this far).<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would encourage everyone to support these petitions, to solicit candidates’ opinions on the matter of candidate selection, and then vote for candidates willing to publicly advocate for candidate selection reform at ARIN. Whether or not the process is currently undergoing capture, it certainly appears to lack the transparency needed to avoid it. </div><div class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Scott</div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 9, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">There were apparently at least 5 candidates. There are 2 open board seats.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The nom-com approved only 3 candidates, hence my complaint.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are 7 open advisory council seats. I did not count the nomination list size, but I assure you it was well short of 14.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 9, 2021, at 17:30 , Steven Ryerse <<a href="mailto:SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com" target="_blank" class="">SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">If there are enough candidates there ought to be at least 2 for each seat and more than 2 is also good too. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u 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class=""><image007.png></span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div><div class=""><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in" class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class=""> </span>ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>><span class=""> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class=""> </span></b>Mike Burns<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class=""> </span>Saturday, October 9, 2021 4:45 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class=""> </span>Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class=""> </span>arin-ppml <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class=""> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] Board Election Petition underway<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">I was rejected for an Advisory Council candidacy even though I was a candidate in the past and am a policy author in multiple registries.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Another broker was likewise rejected.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">There are 7 AC openings, only 10 candidates, but I was rejected.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">I know another broker who was, like me, solicited to run but then denied a candidacy.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">The NomCom is comprised of four insiders, two volunteers, and operates in the dark.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Not saying this is the case, but very few likeminded individuals on the AC/Board can effectively capture these via NomCom filtering.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">A dangerous thing for Internet governance in the context of Afrinic. I don't want the governments of the world taking over from the amateurs.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">But if we continue to act amateurish...<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Regards,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Mike<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in;margin-top:7.5pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt" class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-6118051203740986162Zm-_Id_-Sgn1" class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">---- On Sat, 09 Oct 2021 11:58:00 -0400<span class=""> </span><b class="">Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>></b><span class=""> </span>wrote ----<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div></div><blockquote class=""><div class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Has ARIN disclosed anything about why the NomCom chose to exclude two obviously-qualified candidates from the ballot when they didn’t yet have 2 candidates per open seat, and the 3 candidates they did include are all less well-known to the community than both the ones they excluded?<br class=""><br class="">I can hypothesize some possible reasons, but none of them would reflect well on the NomCom, so I am reluctant to do so without learning their stated reason(s).<span class=""> </span><br class=""><br class="">Scott<br class=""><br class="">> On Oct 9, 2021, at 7:39 AM, Bill Woodcock <<a href="mailto:woody@pch.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">woody@pch.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">><span class=""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif" class=""></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class=""><br class="">><span class=""> </span><br class="">>> On Oct 9, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">hannigan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">>> There's a petition for two people to be added to the Trustee ballot after being rejected by the nom com.<br class="">><span class=""> </span><br class="">> Yes! Go vote on the petitions, so you’ll have more than three choices to fill the two open board seats, when the election comes. 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