<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>Hi Bill and Joe,<br></div><div><br></div><div>This is why my proposal doesn't change the relationship between ARIN and LIRs, who have the same responsibility of ensuring need that LIRs always have.<br></div><div>Just absent the circuit itself, which doesn't change the justification data.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br>Mike</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="zmail_extra_hr" style="border-top: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; line-height: 0px;"><br></div><div class="zmail_extra" data-zbluepencil-ignore="true"><br><div id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn1">---- On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 02:59:42 -0400 <b>William Herrin <bill@herrin.us></b> wrote ----<br></div><br><blockquote style="margin: 0px;"><div>On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 10:40 PM Joe Maimon <<a href="mailto:jmaimon@chl.com" target="_blank">jmaimon@chl.com</a>> wrote: <br>> Delegating <br>> ARIN's role to LIR's absent technical needs would have to be on the <br>> basis that it somehow improves IPv4 stewardship in a manner more <br>> efficient and in-line with community goals and consensus. I think that <br>> would be a high bar to meet. <br> <br>Huh. Now there's an idea. What if LIRs were required to refer the <br>approval process for blocks of 256 or more addresses to ARIN? <br>Grandfather for existing delegations but make it so the maximum size <br>block a LIR could independently approve is a /25. Then if the end <br>user, having met ARIN's burden, wanted to lease instead of buy then so <br>be it? <br> <br>Strictly spitballing here. I don't know that I'd support such a <br>proposal but I want to throw it out there for discussion. <br> <br>Regards, <br>Bill Herrin <br> <br> <br>-- <br>William Herrin <br><a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a> <br><a href="https://bill.herrin.us/" target="_blank">https://bill.herrin.us/</a> <br>_______________________________________________ <br>ARIN-PPML <br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to <br>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" target="_blank">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>). <br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: <br><a href="https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml" target="_blank">https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a> <br>Please contact <a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank">info@arin.net</a> if you experience any issues. <br></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div><br></body></html>