<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 21, 2021, at 12:50 , Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" class="">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 21 Sep 2021, 22:25 Isaiah Olson, <<a href="mailto:isaiah@olson-network.com" class="">isaiah@olson-network.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I am opposed to this proposal and would in fact like to see a policy <br class="">
proposal that strengthens the requirement to provide actual network <br class="">
services in order to receive additional address space.</blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto" class="">Hi Isaiah </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I am in total agreement with your sentiment and the requirement for a circuit should continue to stand.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Any policy that removes such a requirement would render the management of Internet Number Resources by the registry useless and thereby essentially lead to no need for the registry after all.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>You’re going to need to define circuit here.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>If I hand the customer a battery with wires that go from the battery to a bulb and back to the battery, I have provided the customer a circuit. I bet this is not what you mean.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>If I deliver the customer a 100Gbps ethernet over fiber connection, technically, I have not delivered a circuit to the customer, as there is no electrical interface between the customer’s equipment and mine. I suspect this is not your intent.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>When it comes to constructing useful policy in an area fraught with corner cases, the devil is deep in the details and the precise choice of words can matter greatly.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Be careful what you wish for and even more careful what you actually put into effect as policy.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""></div></body></html>