<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 21, 2021, at 10:27 , Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" class="">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Em 21/09/2021 14:22, Owen DeLong via
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This policy doesn’t affect that… Leasing of address space you
already have is permitted under current policy and cannot be
grounds for revocation of address space.
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<div class="">The change in this policy proposal is not to permit
or deny leasing, but to permit leased addresses to be considered
utilized for purposes of determining eligibility for additional
address acquisition.</div>
</blockquote><p class="">Which makes this proposal even worst and not beneficial to anyone
except to those who profit from these leases.<br class=""></p></div></div></blockquote><div>I guess that depends on how you define those that profit from the leases.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>If you mean those who can obtain addresses without a massive capital outlay and those issuing the leases, then sure.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>If you mean only those issuing the leases, then I think you are missing a constituency here.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>In reality, if leasing benefited noone besides the lessors, we wouldn’t have leasing in the first place. Nobody subscribes to a business offering they do not believe is to their benefit.</div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="">How on earth can leased addresses be considered something normal
or acceptable to justify for additional address acquisition ?
This is so out of mind that it is hard to understand how can this
be even proposed.<br class=""></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I don’t honestly have an opinion or care one way or another about the policy, but leasing of addresses with or without connectivity has been normal since the inception of LIRs.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="">
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<div class="">On Sep 21, 2021, at 08:22 , Chris Woodfield
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in opposition. I do not support the practice of leasing
IP address resources. Organizations who have received
larger amounts of IP address space than what they are
efficiently utilizing are free to relieve themselves of
their excess space via the transfer market.
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
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16 September 2021, the ARIN Advisory Council
(AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-302: Remove Circuit
Requirement " as a Draft Policy.</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Draft
Policy ARIN-2021-6 is below and can be found
at:</div>
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_6/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_6/</a></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
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are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies
on PPML. The AC will evaluate the discussion
in order to assess the conformance of this
draft policy with ARIN's Principles of
Internet number resource policy as stated in
the Policy Development Process (PDP).
Specifically, these principles are:</div>
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Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource
Administration</div>
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Technically Sound</div>
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Supported by the Community</div>
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PDP can be found at:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
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Policies and Proposals under discussion can
be found at:</div>
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Hopkins</div>
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Policy Analyst</div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
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Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Draft
Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit
Requirement<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in;
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
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Statement:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Current
ARIN policy prevents the use of leased-out
addresses as evidence of utilization.</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
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statement:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“2.4.
Local Internet Registry (LIR) A Local
Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that
primarily assigns address space to the users
of the network services that it provides.
LIRs are generally Internet Service
Providers (ISPs), whose customers are
primarily end users and possibly other
ISPs.”</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">“2.4.
Local Internet Registry (LIR) A Local
Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that
primarily assigns address space to users of
the network. LIRs are generally Internet
Service Providers (ISPs), whose customers
are primarily end users and possibly other
ISPs.”</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
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