
<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Let me be clear…<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I do not feel that the overall costs of operating ARIN at this time are unreasonable.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I do feel that the apportionment of fees in the new system is very unfair to certain registrants.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 19, 2021, at 08:51 , Steve Noble <<a href="mailto:snoble@sonn.com" class="">snoble@sonn.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Your and my view of rich are obviously different but let's put that aside. <div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">But my point was very specific, if people are talking about ARIN running a deficit and having to raise rates, you should look at the costs of the organization. <div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">If you are complaining to John that the rate increases are not fair, again, look at the costs. If they are too high, then they can be lowered and the rates lowered along with them. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">If you think ARIN is doing everything correctly including compensation then I don't see the issue as it appears that John supports this billing model.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">If you don't agree, than let's have a productive discussion. </div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 6:33 AM Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" class="">hannigan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 12:33 AM Steve Noble <<a href="mailto:snoble@sonn.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">snoble@sonn.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">Since they are a non-profit, they could also cut executive salaries. As of 2019, John was being paid over $546,000 to respond to posts on mailing lists. <div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><a href="https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541860956" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541860956</a><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><table style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px none;font-size:0.8125rem;line-height:1.3;font-family:graphik,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0px;width:337.091px" class=""><tbody style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class=""><tr style="margin:0px;padding:15px 0px 5px;border:0px none;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:700;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class=""><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">Key Employees and Officers</td><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:right" class="">Compensation</td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 5px;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class=""><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">JOHN CURRAN <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px none;font-style:italic;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">(CEO AND PRESIDENT)</span></td><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:right" class="">$546,029</td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 5px;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class=""><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">RICHARD JIMMERSON <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px none;font-style:italic;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">(COO)</span></td><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:right" class="">$347,120</td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 5px;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class=""><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">JOHN SWEETING <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px none;font-style:italic;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">(SR. DIRECTOR, RSD)</span></td><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:right" class="">$279,352</td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 5px;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class=""><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">MARK KOSTERS <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px none;font-style:italic;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">(CTO)</span></td><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:right" class="">$276,796</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am tempted to throw gasoline on this fire. However, that isn't productive, nor is this, in light of a serious concern related to the fee structure. Is hare that concern as well.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If we want good people? We pay. For most of these positions and salaries pay is well below career positions that most of these folks could easily obtain in the industries we/ARIN serves. Nobody is getting rich working at ARIN. John Curran is the face of the organization and it's his job to answer these questions. It may not be his job to answer _every_ question, but speaking for myself: I have zero issue with his pay and duties. <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Fees are ultimately the board's responsibility: <a href="https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/board/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/board/</a> <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Warm regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-M<<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div>

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