<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div>Maybe ARIN and staff should move to Kansas City like the Department of Agriculture did to the Ag Research Science Division.<br>They used the facts that it is much cheaper in KC for rent, employee cost of living, central to US.<br>The said inside the Beltway was too expensive, so they just up and moved it.<br>If ARIN was interested in saving costs, follow the Republicans response to KC.<br>People can choose not to go. So be it.<br>If The salaried executives do not wish to take a pay cut because cost of living is cheaper. Then they can go.<br>This is the way the Republicans choose to reduce government costs.<br>I think a not for profit should follow their lead and do the same.<br>KC has some of the best worldwide redundant fiber to the world. Much better than DC.<br>They have some of the most safe data centers in the world including climate controlled caves.<br>I migrated 3 global companies to KC Datacenters and the redundancy in KC let them close the rest of their worldwide datacenters.<br>MCI (KCI) International Airport has direct flights to all major hubs in the US.<br>Central Airport would make flights to all parts of ARIN region save much on travel money.<br>So why does ARIN need to stay inside the Beltway?<br><br>Paul<br><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"arin-ppml" <arin-ppml@arin.net><br><b>To: </b>"Martin Hannigan" <hannigan@gmail.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"arin-ppml" <arin-ppml@arin.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, September 19, 2021 12:15:23 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [arin-ppml] {Spam?} Re: Open Letter Regarding 650% Rate-Hike for Legacy Users<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote class=""><div class="">On Sep 19, 2021, at 06:32 , Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">hannigan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 12:33 AM Steve Noble <<a href="mailto:snoble@sonn.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">snoble@sonn.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">Since they are a non-profit, they could also cut executive salaries. As of 2019, John was being paid over $546,000 to respond to posts on mailing lists. <div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><a href="https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541860956" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/541860956</a><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><table style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px none;font-size:0.8125rem;line-height:1.3;font-family:'graphik' , sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0px;width:337.091px"><tbody style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class=""><tr style="margin:0px;padding:15px 0px 5px;border:0px none;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:700;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class=""><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">Key Employees and Officers</td><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:right" class="">Compensation</td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 5px;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class=""><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">JOHN CURRAN <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px none;font-style:italic;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">(CEO AND PRESIDENT)</span></td><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:right" class="">$546,029</td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 5px;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class=""><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">RICHARD JIMMERSON <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px none;font-style:italic;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">(COO)</span></td><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:right" class="">$347,120</td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 5px;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class=""><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">JOHN SWEETING <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px none;font-style:italic;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">(SR. DIRECTOR, RSD)</span></td><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:right" class="">$279,352</td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 5px;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class=""><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">MARK KOSTERS <span style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px none;font-style:italic;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-size:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline" class="">(CTO)</span></td><td style="margin:0px;padding:inherit;border:0px none;font:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:right" class="">$276,796</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am tempted to throw gasoline on this fire. However, that isn't productive, nor is this, in light of a serious concern related to the fee structure. Is hare that concern as well.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If we want good people? We pay. For most of these positions and salaries pay is well below career positions that most of these folks could easily obtain in the industries we/ARIN serves. Nobody is getting rich working at ARIN. John Curran is the face of the organization and it's his job to answer these questions. It may not be his job to answer _every_ question, but speaking for myself: I have zero issue with his pay and duties. <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Fees are ultimately the board's responsibility: <a href="https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/board/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/board/</a> <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Warm regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">FWIW, as much as John and I disagree about the fee structure, I do agree with Marty here. John does an excellent job doing what he does for ARIN and the</div><div class="">salary he is receiving is probably a substantial pay cut from some of his previous endeavors. I have no issue with any of the people above receiving the</div><div class="">salaries that they do from ARIN on the same basis described above by Marty.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>ARIN-PPML<br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net).<br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br>https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml<br>Please contact info@arin.net if you experience any issues.<br></div></div></body></html>