Dear ARIN-PPML,<div><div><br></div><div>Hope this email finds you in good health!</div><div><br></div><div>Please see my comments below, inline...<br><br>Le lundi 6 septembre 2021, John Santos <<a href="mailto:john@egh.com" target="_blank">john@egh.com</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Exactly what service or services does Cloud Innovation provide to its customers, apart from raw IP addresses?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi John, </div><div>Thanks to ask this same question again, brother.</div><div><br></div><div>It appears that CI Ltd's website is honest [1] about their lack of real Internet Service to provide. They </div><div>don't bother to secure any ASN...so, no *network*?</div><div>__</div><div>[1]: <<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210906183940/https://cloudinnovation.org//" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/<wbr>20210906183940/https://<wbr>cloudinnovation.org//</a>></div><div><br></div><div>A question could be, how is it possible to classify the *network* relationship with their client base?</div><div><br></div><div>...in other words: which kind of network relation exists between CIL & their ooR (out of Region) </div><div>downstream clients?</div><div><br></div><div>...or: are they filling AfriNIC's IRR with inaccurate info?</div><div><br></div><div>As said above, i see [1] the same words shared </div><div>by Christian Orozco. The brother has simply read </div><div>the public claim on the website [1]... :'-(</div><div><br></div><div>~°~</div><div><div>[...]</div><div>WHO WE ARE</div><div><br></div><div>Established in 2013, Cloud Innovation Limited </div><div>specialises in IP address management. It partners</div><div> with LARUS Limited (a company established in </div><div>Hong Kong) to delegate IP addresses to customers,</div><div> such as, *global telecommunication* companies and</div><div> *Internet service providers* (ISPs). Cloud Innovation</div><div> is not only a frontrunner for IP address management, but also *donates to* LARUS </div><div>Foundation every year *to support the development*</div><div> *of the Internet in Africa*.</div><div>[...]</div></div><div>~°~</div><div><br></div><div>...the latest sentence quoted above raises other questions :-/</div><div><br></div><div>As it's public knowledge that LARUS Foundation </div><div>isn't an African based Org...</div><div><br></div><div>...also, if we assume that the said donation reached</div><div> its intended destination, it would be interesting to </div><div>know what have been its direct impact so far...</div><div><br></div><div>Shalom, </div><div>--sb.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On 9/6/2021 6:02 AM, Christian Orozco wrote:<br>
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Hi Ronald,<br>
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Cloud Innovation serves hundreds of networks, some of which are considered as the largest telecommunication companies in the world and the largest Cloud service providers even.<br>
It would totally help to check the BGP first for your information. That will best answer your question.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Christian<br>
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On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 5:17 AM Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" target="_blank">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" target="_blank">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>><wbr>> wrote:<br>
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In message<br>
<CAOacvLF+mWgvnP738uG7eP+oLHO=<a href="mailto:Xuc4oqqxF+KdD1D7w_hNcA@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank"><wbr>Xuc4oqqxF+KdD1D7w_hNcA@mail.gm<wbr>ail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:Xuc4oqqxF%2BKdD1D7w_hNcA@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">Xuc4oqqxF%2BKdD1D7w_hN<wbr>cA@mail.gmail.com</a>>>,<br>
Christian Orozco <<a href="mailto:chresgoro@gmail.com" target="_blank">chresgoro@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:chresgoro@gmail.com" target="_blank">chresgoro@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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>... However, your statements on Mr Lu<br>
>could be easily misinterpreted by people who have not understood well how<br>
>CI is able to provide trusted service to millions of end-users...<br>
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How you you know that Mr. Lu is providing service to millions of end-users?<br>
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Can you verify that with actual reciepts?<br>
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Regards,<br>
rfg<br>[...]<br>
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-- <br>
John Santos<br>
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.<br>
781-861-0670 ext 539<br>[...]<br>
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