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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;line-break:after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo18><span style='font-size:12.0pt'></span></span><span class=EstiloCorreo18><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>I was also recalling that the AC was elected by membership as well, and I just found that in the PDP:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo18><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EstiloCorreo18><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>“</span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white'>To accomplish this goal, the PDP charges the member-elected ARIN Advisory Council (AC) as the primary facilitators of the policy development process with appropriate checks and balances on its performance in that role.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white'>(https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/)</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>So, I’m confused :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I also tried to find the voting process, and it looks like it is the same as for the Board, so only for members.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Note that, regarding the urgent policies and the non-ratification, I agree that is is something important to have *<b>if</b>* the community included that in the PDP itself (because I believe that the PDP must be also developed by the community, as any other “policy”). I believe that this is also one of the differences between ARIN and the other 4 RIRs, as in ARIN the PDP is not modified by the policy making process itself, unless I missunderstood it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 7/9/21 22:04, "John Curran" <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">jcurran@arin.net</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On 7 Sep 2021, at 3:39 PM, arin-ppml <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Unless I recall it incorrectly, they are elected by the *<b>membership</b>* not the *<b>community</b>*. There is a huge difference.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Jordi -<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>You are correct - ARIN is membership organization with a member-elected Board of Trustees. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>In other regions, the chairs of the PDP are elected by the community.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>In the ARIN region, our ARIN Advisory Council (which administers the policy process) is elected by the membership as well. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>The board is still elected by the membership, but the board has nothing to say in regards to PDP/policy making process.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>In the overwhelming majority of the time, the ARIN Board of Trustees role is limited to review and ratification of recommended policies, but they do retain the ability to propose policy in an emergency (see below). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Further to that, only one RIR (LACNIC) has explicitly indicated in the PDP that the board could reject a policy that reached consensus and return it to the policy list for further discussion. I don’t think it happened ever – I agree that this is a good think in order to protect the membership/organization if the community gets crazy, but it must be clearly proven and explained with no doubts or signs of attempt of community decisions manipulation.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>In the ARIN region, the relevant section of the PDP <<a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/#10-special-policy-actions">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/#10-special-policy-actions</a>> states that the Board may initiate policy _"<b>if urgently necessary pursuant to ARIN’s mission”_</b> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>The Board doesn’t simply enact policy - the process involves posting the proposed policy to this list (arin-ppml) and having an express review of it by the ARIN AC – <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>10. Special Policy Actions<br>10.1 Emergency PDP</b><br>If urgently necessary pursuant to ARIN’s mission, the Board of Trustees may initiate policy by declaring an emergency and posting a Recommended Draft Policy on the PPML for discussion for a minimum of 14 days. The Advisory Council will review the Recommended Draft Policy within 7 days of the end of the discussion period and make a recommendation to the Board of Trustees. If the Board of Trustees adopts the policy, it will be presented at the next Public Policy Meeting for reconsideration.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I am unaware of the ARIN Board ever proposing policy aside from the circumstances in 2009 regarding the need for a usable transfer policy.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>FYI,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>/John<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>John Curran<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>President and CEO<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>American Registry for Internet Numbers<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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