<div dir="ltr">Owen, IPv6 hesitation is very common in schools and even at many universities. Part of it is that with smaller staff, it's generally not risen up as a priority. (Sorry to be off topic.)<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 1:26 AM Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Unless you consider 10+ year old technology “new”, IPv6 does not require new or expensive technologies.<div><br></div><div>The internet is moving (albeit much slower than would be ideal) to IPv6. You’re too late to lead, but there’s still time to be in the large scale adoption herd. The next category available will be the left-behinds.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 15, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Jay Wendelin <<a href="mailto:jmw@poweredbystl.com" target="_blank">jmw@poweredbystl.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Monaco;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">You would have to ask the ISP’s themselves.  My Schools will not want to be involved at all nor will we want to implement new and expensive technologies for ip6.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><table style="border-collapse:collapse" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr style="height:91.35pt"><td style="width:76.8pt;padding:0in 5.4pt;height:91.35pt" width="102" valign="top"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.poweredbystl.com/" title="http://www.poweredbystl.com/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"><span id="gmail-m_8003579798098399341cid:image001.png@01D6EB2A.FEDB3160"><image001.png></span></span></a><u></u><u></u></div></td><td style="width:157.2pt;padding:0in 5.4pt;height:91.35pt" width="210" valign="top"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(3,31,65)">Jay Wendelin</span></b><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(74,89,115)">Chief Information Officer</span></b><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">Cell: </span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">309-657-5303</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(74,89,115)"><a href="mailto:jmw@poweredbystl.com" title="mailto:jmw@poweredbystl.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(74,89,115)">jmw@poweredbystl.com</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/PoweredBySTL/" title="https://www.facebook.com/PoweredBySTL/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"><span id="gmail-m_8003579798098399341cid:image002.png@01D6EB2A.FEDB3160"><image002.png></span></span></a><a href="https://twitter.com/PoweredBySTL" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"><span id="gmail-m_8003579798098399341cid:image003.png@01D6EB2A.FEDB3160"><image003.png></span></span></a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/stl" title="https://www.linkedin.com/company/stl" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"><span id="gmail-m_8003579798098399341cid:image004.png@01D6EB2A.FEDB3160"><image004.png></span></span></a><u></u><u></u></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt">From:<span> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12pt">Fernando Frediani <<a href="mailto:fhfrediani@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">fhfrediani@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date:<span> </span></b>Friday, January 15, 2021 at 10:36 AM<br><b>To:<span> </span></b>Jay Wendelin <<a href="mailto:jmw@poweredbystl.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">jmw@poweredbystl.com</a>><br><b>Cc:<span> </span></b>arin-ppml <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br><b>Subject:<span> </span></b>Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:red">WARNING:</span></b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> <span style="color:rgb(156,156,148)">This message originated from outside of the organization. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the source of this email and can ensure the content is safe.</span></span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Didn't these ISPs in 2021 not invest IPv6 deployment and good CGNAT techniques and they rely only on keep getting more addresses from ARIN ?<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Fernando<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Fri, 15 Jan 2021, 13:29 Jay Wendelin, <<a href="mailto:jmw@poweredbystl.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">jmw@poweredbystl.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I support this petition, I have many Public School Clients that rely on their ISP’s to manage and offer IP address. <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Jay Wendelin<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">CIO<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">STL/BTS<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div><table style="border-collapse:collapse" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr style="height:91.35pt"><td style="width:76.8pt;padding:0in 5.4pt;height:91.35pt" width="102" valign="top"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.poweredbystl.com/" title="http://www.poweredbystl.com/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"><span><img id="gmail-m_8003579798098399341m_-2291961510755147526Picture_x0020_4" alt="cidimage001.png@01D698CE.05CAF3C0" style="width: 0.9062in; height: 0.9895in;" width="87" height="95" border="0"></span></span></a><u></u><u></u></div></td><td style="width:157.2pt;padding:0in 5.4pt;height:91.35pt" width="210" valign="top"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(3,31,65)">Jay Wendelin</span></b><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(74,89,115)">Chief Information Officer</span></b><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">Cell: </span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">309-657-5303</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:jmw@poweredbystl.com" title="mailto:jmw@poweredbystl.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(74,89,115)">jmw@poweredbystl.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/PoweredBySTL/" title="https://www.facebook.com/PoweredBySTL/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"><span><img id="gmail-m_8003579798098399341m_-2291961510755147526Picture_x0020_3" alt="cidima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