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<p>Yes we are, mainly when there are tentatives to push something
that hasn't been broadly accepted by the community as many other
proposals that didn't progress.<br>
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If a proposal doesn't reach consensus is probably because it
didn't resolve all the possible issues it had during the
discussion period regardless of how many people supported it.</p>
<p>And by the way: there are absolutely nothing wrong in dismissing
supports when they have no substantial justifications to
contribute to resolve the opened issues. That's what is evaluated
by the AC.<br>
Otherwise we may end up having supports to proposals "because once
the person visited the author's company and they give free beers
to visitors".</p>
<p>Process keep being bottom-up, everyone is free to write whatever
opinion they have and others that don't agree with it or don't
consider that as something that resolves opened issues have also
the right to contradict them. <br>
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<p>Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/01/2021 17:21, Mike Burns wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Count me as embarrassed at the treatment of
new posters on this list.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Demeaned as recipients of payments for
expressing their opinion, mocked for offering support without
establishing bona fides.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dismissed because no reasoning is provided
in support of their opinions.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And finally attacked when they do.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I hope the Trustees who will make this
decision are aware of the importance of bottom-up, stakeholder
governance, and realize these numerous expressions of support
might be the first steps of these posters towards the kind of
ongoing community participation we claim to value. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Aren’t we all sick of the same voices?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<br>
Mike Burns<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PS ARIN does not require resource holders
use NAT, much less CGNAT. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If you feel that should be a requirement,
write a policy proposal.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> ARIN-PPML
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net"><arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert
Clarke<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 15, 2021 2:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jay Wendelin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jmw@poweredbystl.com"><jmw@poweredbystl.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2:
Grandfathering of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by
Implementation of ARIN-2019-16<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Isn't this like saying "please give me free
land so I can lease it onto schools and other noble public
institutions?" <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't feel like this argument has
weight nor does your business take priority over the actual
non profit businesses that won't get allocations because of
this policy.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jan 15, 2021, at 8:29 AM, Jay
Wendelin <<a href="mailto:jmw@poweredbystl.com"
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<p class="MsoNormal">I support this petition, I have
many Public School Clients that rely on their ISP’s to
manage and offer IP address. <o:p></o:p></p>
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