<div dir="ltr"><div>I'm replying to the last message in this thread. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Please note (and you can refer to the Nov AC minutes) that
<span id="m_-9035197507087597935gmail-:gp.co" style="text-align:left" dir="ltr">organizations
that are currently on the waitlist won’t be affected, because the
next disbursement of v4 would fulfill all the exempted orgs as well as the
ones remaining on the list. The overall impact to the current waitlist is non-existent from these requests. <br></span></div><div><span id="m_-9035197507087597935gmail-:gp.co" style="text-align:left" dir="ltr"><br></span></div><div><span id="m_-9035197507087597935gmail-:gp.co" style="text-align:left" dir="ltr">Further thoughts given that info?<br></span></div>
</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 6:47 PM Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Not quite… It works based on rough consensus, not relative weight of support or opposition.<div><br></div><div>So if there are substantial objections from the community, a mere majority may not be sufficient. OTOH, if all objections can be addressed (and substantial objections mitigated or accommodated), then a proposal should move forward. As to what is substantial, addressed, mitigated, or accommodated, those judgments are made first by the advisory council, with various checks and balances from the board and the petition process(es).</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div><div>Full disclosure, while I am a member of the AC and will participate in that determination, there are also 14 other members and I do not speak for the body or anyone but myself in making the above comment.</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 22, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Brandt, Jason via ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Monaco;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I agree, this is Public. I have an ASN, I was on the waitlist for 11 months to get my address block (with no expectation that I was going to receive a block). I would not have felt it was fair if I was dropped and had to reapply again. I will continue to come back to it's how the policy is being applied. It doesn't matter who is supporting this policy or why, as Martin says this is a Public list. We are entitled to our reasons and to be able to support or not support these initiatives. If support outweighs opposition, then it should move forward.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><table style="width:697px" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr style="font-size:0px"><td style="vertical-align:top" align="left"><table style="font-size:0px;color:rgb(0,102,255);font-style:normal;font-weight:400;white-space:nowrap" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr style="font-size:12px"><td style="vertical-align:bottom;font-size:14.67px;font-family:Arial;font-weight:700" align="left">Jason<span style="font-family:remialcxesans;font-size:1px;color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:1px"></span></td><td style="vertical-align:top;color:rgb(0,0,1);font-family:Arial" align="left"> <br></td><td style="vertical-align:bottom;font-size:14.67px;font-family:Arial;font-weight:700" align="left">Brandt</td><td style="vertical-align:top;color:rgb(0,0,1);font-family:Arial" align="left"> 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If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication and destroy all copies [v1.0.002].<br></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b><span> </span>ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>><span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Martin Hannigan<br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Thursday, October 22, 2020 12:11<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Robert Clarke <<a href="mailto:robert@rjfc.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">robert@rjfc.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span> </span><a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="left"><tbody><tr><td style="background-color:rgb(187,165,85);padding:5.25pt 5.5pt 5.25pt 1.5pt"></td><td style="width:667.672px;background-color:rgb(255,229,153);padding:5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt 11.25pt" width="100%"><div><p><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33)">CAUTION:</span></b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><span> </span>This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.<span> </span></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I thought this was a PUBLIC policy list?<span> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 12:55 PM Robert Clarke <<a href="mailto:robert@rjfc.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">robert@rjfc.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">+1 on this.<span> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Where is the data from ARIN on where the support for this policy is coming from?<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Regards,<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>Robert<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br><br><u></u><u></u></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Oct 21, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I oppose any special treatment being given to organizations that encourage their customers to spam the policy list with messages in support of such special treatment.<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">-Scott<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 4:16 PM Chad Geiser via ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">To Whom it May Concern,<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">We do business with Stratus as a Fiber provider for our operation as well as many of our clients. They are a legitimate internet service provider. We support the Stratus stance on this policy. Thank you for the consideration.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sincerely,<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Chad Geiser<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><table style="width:586.219px" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0in;border-color:currentcolor rgb(63,151,181) currentcolor currentcolor" valign="top"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0in" valign="top"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="border-style:none solid none none;border-right:1.5pt solid windowtext;padding:7.5pt 7.5pt 7.5pt 0in"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:1pt"><image250322.png><u></u><u></u></span></div></td><td style="padding:7.5pt 0in 7.5pt 7.5pt"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0in" valign="top"><table style="width:296.734px" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0in" valign="top"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0in" valign="top"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(96,96,96)">Chad</span></b><b><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:remialcxesans;color:white"></span></b><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(96,96,96)"><u></u><u></u></span></b></div></td><td style="padding:0in" valign="top"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(96,96,96)"> Geiser<u></u><u></u></span></b></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td style="padding:0in" 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