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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">This draft policy while allowing 26
organizations which have up /18 in holdings to obtain a /22 under
this policy, blocks 11 organizations which had more than a /18 and
thus are not eligible to obtain a /22 even though they waited in
line too. By the logic below this policy isn't fair to these 11
organizations. They waited in line too.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">While I understand why these
organizations would support this policy, its in their direct
monetary interest.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I still believe the AC got the new
policy right by limiting the wait-list to smaller organizations
(which hold a /20 or less). The wait-list was never a guarantee
of getting address space. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I still don't support this policy.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">For the record...ARIN staff didn't
bring this policy, member(s) of the Internet community started
this policy proposal. They were right to do so and the discussion
is certainly worthwhile. But the Internet community develops
policy via the PDP not ARIN staff.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Andrew<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/22/2020 6:50 AM, Brandt, Jason
via ARIN-PPML wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It has
nothing to do with current allocations or shortages. It has
everything to do with proper application of current policy
and honoring existing policy when changes are made. How
would you like to stand in line at the store with your
groceries for an hour, then be told you can't have that many
items and go to the back of the line since they just changed
their policy? It's not a fair application. These
organizations followed the rules that were there at the time
and did everything they were supposed to, and were APPROVED
to wait for the next available allocation. Then due to a
policy change they were later removed from the list and told
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net"><arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 22, 2020 08:45<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Last Call - Recommended
Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Reinstatement of Organizations
Removed from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>What is this ? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>People coming to support this just because they see a
opportunity to get a few more space for their own
organizations and not because this is a fair and equitable
to all existing and potential members of the Internet
Community.?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Everybody that operates in the Internet Business depends on
IPv4 allocations and they are not available anymore. This
shortage is equal to anyone and some still wishing to
receive a little chunk of addresses despite the situation
that affects all ?<br>
What is the justification to give some organizations who
already have some reasonable space to work with, more space
in current times ? I see this as privileging few rather than
been equalized to all others.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>So why I always opposed this proposal.<br>
Fernando<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
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this policy as written, I appreciate how the ARIN staff
has determined this issue a definite oversight and has
determined to quickly remedy. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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we live and breathe on IPV4 allocations and responsible
allocations to our customers. I am impressed by the
tremendous response of colleagues, partners, employees,
customers, and competitors of Stratus in reaction to
this. That tells me that they all had the same reaction
when they were advised of the situation, disappointment,
and dare I say some outrage. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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impressed that ARIN staff responded so quickly, and they
look to remedy the situation quickly, preventing any
tarnish to the reputation that it has achieved as a fair
and equitable manager of such a constrained resource.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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