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On 13 Oct 2020, at 3:33 AM, Anthony Ubah <<a href="mailto:ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com" class="">ubah.tonyiyke@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class=""><b class=""> Thank you for your clarification, but since the community serves as the "supreme court of policies", the best place to seek answers would be PPML.</b><br class="">
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<div>As it turns out, your statement above is incorrect in the ARIN region – the ARIN PPML mailing list has a very specific purpose (discussion of policy-related ideas and issues surrounding existing and proposed ARIN policies), and ARIN’s formal membership
structure provides very clear and delineated roles for the ARIN Board, ARIN Advisory Council, ARIN staff and the ARIN community – roles that might be differ from expectations held in other regions. (As it turns out, I am both keenly aware of these roles and
it is my job to speak to these matters on behalf of ARIN, hence the need to correct your “supreme court of policies” assertion.)</div>
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<div>As I noted earlier – In this particular case, as the discussion of compatibility is already underway on the list and may help inform understanding of the operation of ARIN’s existing Inter-RIR transfer policy – we will proceed here with discussion of the
compatibility aspects of your proposal. </div>
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<div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""></span>In order to get the discussion moving, I’d like to get clarity on two questions regarding your proposed policy – </div>
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<div class=""><i class=""><span class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""></span>1. Does the policy impose any conditions on recipient organizations in the ARIN region receiving </span><span class="">transfers from AFRINIC-served entities?</span></i></div>
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<div class=""><b class="">No. The final version of this proposal indicates clearly that no condition will be imposed on the recipient’s organization in other regions, which obviously also applies to the case of ARIN.</b></div>
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<div class=""><span class=""><i class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""></span>2. Does the policy impose any conditions on source organizations in the ARIN region doing transfers to AFRINIC-served entities?</i></span></div>
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<b class="">No. The final version of this proposal indicates clearly that no condition will be imposed on the source organizations in other regions, which obviously also applies to the case of ARIN.
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This’s the intention of our proposal. If there are any unclear wordings that may cause possible misunderstanding or confusion, please let us know. </b></div>
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<div>ARIN’s assessment of compatibility with other region’s inter-RIR transfer policy follows the language in NRPM 8.4 requiring "reciprocal, compatible needs-based policies.”</div>
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<div>Your indication that ARIN would not be required to assess transfer requests from ARIN organizations against AFRINIC policy is a key requirement of compatibility, and appears satisfied. </div>
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<div>The policy must also by “reciprocal” in nature (i.e. allowing transfers both to & from organizations in the other region), and must support needs-based assessment of any recipient – both of these conditions appear satisfied by the proposed policy text
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<div>Overall, I suspect that the proposed policy is compatible with the ARIN InterRIR transfer policy requirements. Formal confirmation of this will require a staff assessment – which may be requested by AFRINIC staff at any time. </div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>/John</div>
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<div>John Curran</div>
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